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MR.

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I hereby certify that the

following is a true rerecording of the original recorded transmissions pertaining to the events of September, September llth, 2001. Gascoyne

[ph].

My name is Troy

I am employed as a quality

assurance specialist at the Command Center.

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MR.

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Command Center East, Tony.

MR.

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Hi, Tony.

Boston Center.

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Good morning.

I got a situation here with America

one-one, America 11, Boston departure to LAX. MR.

Okay.

MR.

We believe it's a possible

hijack situation. MR.

Okay.

Tell me more.

MR.

Okay.

It departed

Washington.

We lost radio communications with him,

then we lost his transponder, and they believe that

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they heard, in the background, something--a threat, and right now-MR.

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What?

A threat you said?

MR.

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A threat, and right now the

aircraft is just west of Albany, going

southbound.

MR .

Okay.

I see him.

MR.

And

MR.

Nobody's

MR.

Nobody's talking to him at

he - talking to him;

right?

this time; correct. MR .

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Okay.

Anything I can do to

help you right now? MR.

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And nope.

I mean, just

in--we have no idea where this aircraft is going, maybe a head, "head up" to New York Center? MR.

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Well, probably

[inaudible]

might be good if we call up Cleveland and New York and at least let them know, just in case this guy starts heading there, well, they'll have a "heads up" - MR.

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Right.


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--on it.

Okay; let's do

that .

MR .

New York Center.

MR .

New York; Boston; is that

MR .

Waiting for Cleveland

right?

[inaudible].

MR .

Cleveland.

MR. York, Boston.

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All right, Cleveland.

New

I got a little situation with

American 11, America eleven. Boston going to LAX. aircraft is going.

He is a 767 departed

We don't know where the He is supposedly going to LAX,

was going westbound, we lost his frequency and we lost his transponder, and now the aircraft is just west of Albany heading due south. MR.

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Oh, my goodness.

we have, we have a datablock on him?

Okay.

Who's got

the- MR. target presently

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Yeah.

W e - - i t ' s a primary

and it's just

heading


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southwestbound. MR.

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Okay.

Understand.

[Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

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[inaudible] right now.

MR.

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I'll, I'll advise the area.

MR.

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The last

[inaudible] observed

was, said they were two niner zero. MR.

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Twenty--

MR.

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Heading southbound?

MR.

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Heading southwestbound.

like towards Hancock.

He's

Right, right around there.

He's southwest of Albany by one-five miles. MR.

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You have no idea where he's

go ing? No idea sir

MR .

MR.

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All righty.

MR.

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You can tag him on the TSC-


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Yeah.

I got him tagged [?]

[inaudible] primary only? MR.

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Primary only.

MR.

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Okay.

I'll watch him.


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Thanks Cleve--thank you.

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Well, Boston Center claims

[inaudible]. MR.

that they lost radio communication with the aircraft. [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

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And his transponder

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And the transponder.

[inaudible] too. MR.

And

there's also — they're tracking the primary target at this point.

He was last known at flight level

290 . Uh-huh.

MR .

MR.

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And he appears to have turned

south, southwestbound. MR.

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Hmm.

And also there was some

MR .

mention of some sort of a threat being made o r - MR. MR

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He made? A threat to the cockpit or

some threat - MR

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and Boston's uncertain! exactly what was said.

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MR.

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Okay; all right.

MR.

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Okay.

MR.

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I'll call you back.

MR.

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Command Center East.

MR.

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Hi, Tony.

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Tony.

Command Center

I mean Boston Center here.

Could I get New

York TRACON. MR.

You bet.

So nothing with the

MR.

Yeah, with American 11.

MR.

Say again.

MR.

Reference to American 11. ,-.

MR.

Right.

cockpit?

Have you had any

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with him yet? MR.

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No; no .

It is

confirmed, hijack, though.

Center.

MR.

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TRACON.

MR.

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Hey, TRACON.

Good morning.

Hi.

Boston

American 11, 767, possible

hijack. MR.

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Okay.

America 11, sev--seven

MR .

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Seven s ix - -

MR .

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Where is he landing?

MR .

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Right now, we don't have any

f ive and - -

idea, but he was to the northwest of Albany and now he's down by Sparta, losing speed very rapidly. believe

We

[inaudible] primary only and we believe

he's gonna descend.

That's why he's, he's--he's

slowing down. MR.

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I'm just trying t o - - a n d he's

around the Sparta area now, you say? MR.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

He's around the Sparta

area right now. MR.

I just don't see


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[inaudible] primary target

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Yeah.

right now. MR.

I'm looking pretty

hard for any kind a primary target.

We still

should be able to see it and I don't see-MR.

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I do have something on the

TSC, if that gives you an idea of w h i - - w h i c h way he's heading. MR.

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Yeah.

I'm just looking at

the real raw radar here and I just don't s e e - - I just don't see anything out there. let the area know to start looking was

I'll star—I'll for it.

What

his - MR.

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We just don't have any idea

w h a t - - t h e last altitude we had was

[inaudible] two

niner zero, but his speed has diminished quite a bit . MR

Okay .

MR

So we believe he might be in

a descent. MR

Okay.

All righty.


I'll,

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All right.

MR.

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Understand.

MR .

Check.

MR .

Check.

MR .

Hey, Boston?

MR.

Yes .

MR. hijack.

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Just be careful.

You said you confirmed the

How'd you-MR.

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Well, the--what has happened,

the pilot has kept the mike keyed while the person's

in the, in the cockpit, the flight deck

[?] . MR.

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Okay, and what are you

MR.

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The threat.

hearing? You know, I

don't really know what they're hearing but that the sup came down and confirmed t h e - - i t is a hijack. MR.

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Okay.

If you learn anything

else, please give us a call so we can help you out as best we can.

Does New York know what this guy

[ inaudible] - -


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MR.

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New York knows, Cleveland

knows, maybe Washington will be next.

We're gonna

scramble some fighters to tail him. MR.

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Okay.

MR.

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Yes.

MR.

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Okay.

Coming out of Otis?

I'll, I'll take care

of the coordination with Washington

Center.

I will

advise them of what's going on. MR.

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MR.

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MR.

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Thank you.

Washington

[inaudible] .

Hi, Washington.

Tony here in

the East at the Command Center.

I have an advisory

for ya.

There's

Give you a "heads up."

American 11, he is a Boston

airplane.

an

to LAX flight t h a t - -

MS.

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Okay.

MR.

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- - i s a possible hijack

MS.

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Possible hijack.

MR.

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- - c u r r e n t l y - - w e 11, the

He's--

last--when they lost radar with him and they're tracking a primary

target, he's northwest of New


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and we're, we're suspecting he could be

heading towards Kennedy or one of the New York ai rport s. He's still at the flight levels that we believe, we got primary only, b u t - - a n d he's slow-[ Simultaneous conversation.] MS.

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He's primary only right now.

MR.

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—slowed way down.

But we

just want to give you a "heads up" in case he continues on that southbound heading toward your airspace. we're guessing

MR.

He'll be

So right now, we're,

that he's heading towards New York.

MS. tell my ©MIC

track.

:

All right.

:

Okay.

I'll tell, I'll

[ph] . If you

look on the

CSC, you can pull up something on him.

I - - w e don't

know how accurate the data is, but it is moving. MS.

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Yeah.

MR.

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Right.

I see something on

him .

like he's just crossing MS.

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A m e r i c a n - - i t looks

the New Jersey

Okay.


line there.

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MR.

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But, again, we don't

the, the validity of the data.

know

According to

Boston, that's roughly where we would guess he would be. MS.

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Okay.

MR.

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Okay.

MS.

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Uh-huh.

MR.

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Thanks. Bye.

Yeah, we've tried a couple

places, now we're down to Atlantic City to try to get someone else to take a look. MR.

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that just said that? MR.

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Okay.

Who

is this?

Who is

Boston? Boston.

MR

Okay.

MR

Hey, Terry,

MR .

We did.

Command Center, you

on? Tom.

Try Otis

also.

MR.

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Anything?

Any

luck?

MR.

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No; we did not have any luck

That's why we're down to Atlantic City.

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Okay .

MR .

Excuse me.

[ph], acting air traffic DRZR

Chris Camerone

[ph] manager, New

England Region, is also on. MR.

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Okay.

Command Center, you

on? MR .

Command Center's on.

MR.

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Okay.

Are, are you gonna--!

guess Boston's getting in touch with Atlantic City but do you have any direct line to the military for [inaudible]? MR.

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going to the CARF MR. information.

I believe the

supervisor's

[?] unit now. :

New York, here's some new

We, we lost the primary target about

20 west of Kennedy, it looks

like, and there's an

ELT report in that area. [ inaudible] . MR.

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I'm sorry.

Say that again,

MR.

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I said we, we've

please.

looks like we lost the primary

[inaudible]

target 20 west of


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Kennedy and we had a report of an ELT in the area. We're going t o - - I guess we'll get some Coast Guard activity up there. MR.

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Yeah; we lost the track too.

MR.

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Boston, this is New York.

What type aircraft was the American?

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MR.

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767.

MR.

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This is the ACI Watch.

Say

again if you lost track of the aircraft; over. MR.

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Boston has lost track and on

our frequency we have confirmed that it was a hijack; also the tapes. MR.

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Yeah, New York confirms we

lost the track as well and we w e r e - - w e got a report of an ELT in the area that track was in. Towers reports--do you hear me?

Kennedy

Kennedy Tower

reports that there was a fire at the World Trade Center and that's, that's the area where we lost the a irplane. [ Pause.] MR.

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Anybody on?

MR.

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Yeah.

Boston's here.


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Yeah.

MS .

You on CNN News?

It's

on the news. MR . airplane

It's on the news?

The

hit the Trade Tower? MS.

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Yeah.

MR.

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Okay.

I, I guess there's

no

more, no further use for New York Center on this line right now.

We'11--Command

Center,

[ inaudible] ? MR.

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[ inaudible] .

MR.

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Yeah.

MR.

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It is Rich.

MR.

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Yeah.

Is that Rich

[?]?

Is there any bloody

[?] use for us to be on the cell phone now o r - MR.

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I'm gonna keep the line open

If you need to talk to me, just

talk to me.

I'm

listening to it. MR.

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Okay.

MS.

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This

is Jennifer in the

Operations Center.

MR . here.

Jennifer, Boston's still

Go ahead.


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MS.

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Okay.

It looks like the

World Trade Center is — either the aircraft went through it or it's been bombed.

It's on CNN right

now and the building is in smoke.

The top of the

bu i1ding. TV NEWS:

Pictures

from New York are just

coming in now, we hope to have more information as soon as it's available.

The word is the plane

crashed in one of the towers--

East.

MS.

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Washington

MR.

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Washington.

Tony in the

We believe that the aircraft has actually

now crashed want

[inaudible].

into the World Trade Center, if you

[inaudible] CNN, take a look at that and find

out, but we now believe it is no longer in the air. MS. Thank you, Tony.

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Oh, my God!

All right.

[inaudible].

[TV news in background.] MR.

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[ inaudible] .

MR.

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Yeah.

[Phone ringing.] MR.

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[inaudible].


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MR.

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[inaudible] described as the

World Trade Center, New York-MR.

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MR.

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Cleveland. Cleveland, this is Tony in

the East, reference American 11. MR.

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MR.

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Yeah. We believe the aircraft has

crashed into the World Trade Center in New York. If you watch CNN, you can get the details there. It was just on their live.

We do not believe it is

in the air anymore. MR.

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Oh, my goodness.

Okay.

Thank you very much. MS . MR.

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[inaudible] . Yes.

MR .

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The 767--

MS .

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No, I mean what the World

Trade Center

What hit the World Trade Center

can't be MR .

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Yeah; it can't be American

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[ inaudible] .

[ inaudible] . MS .


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MR. primary

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Well, and they lost the

target, it was descending, because it's

usually from 500 knots down to 250. MR.

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[ inaudible] .

MR.

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Vicinity of the World

Trade

MR .

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Oh, that's a bad sign

[?].

MS .

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[inaudible] you can look at

:

I looked.

Center.

the picture, yeah. MR.

like it may a twisted by.

It m a y - - i t

looks

So it's hard to say.

MS.

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[ inaudible] .

MR.

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But like there'd be

debris

Command Center East

Tony

all over the ground. MR.

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MR .

[ inaudible] .

MR .

It's too much of a

coincidence, I think. MS.

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[inaudible].

MR.

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Command Center

just paged

[inaudible] I

[inaudible].

MR.

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Hello?

Yes.


[on the phone.]

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the center.

I didn't tell her to go to

I just paged her about

the event.

Avert was en route-MR. Hold on.

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I'm

[on the phone.]

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Command

MR.

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CNN's

MR.

Yeah.

[inaudible] .

MR.

just crashed

Yeah.

Center.

reporting

the plane

[inaudible]. :

I'm in the middle of a

traffic jam here fighting my way to the airport. Yeah.

I'm

[inaudible].

It's serious

stuff.

[Voices in background.] MR.

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They wouldn't

know.

It looks

like they didn't know. [Simultaneous inaudible conversation

in

background. ]

doesn't

MS.

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[inaudible] any impact.

MR.

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Not, not at this point, it

appear to be MS.

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[inaudible]; no. Uh-huh.

MR.

Okay?

MS .

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MR.

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Thanks.

[Conversation in background.] MS.

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Came out the other, landed.

MR.

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No.

[inaudible] the

buiIding. [Phone ringing.] MS.

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This is the Boston

just report that the CASO

CASO

[?],

[?] manager and two

supervisors are dropping off the Net for a few minutes.

We will reconnect when we're over at the

airport, which will be about ten minutes.

Thank

you . Okay,

MR .

Jim

[inaudible].

MR .

[ inaudible] .

MS .

[ inaudible] .

MR .

This is Bob Pearce

the NTSB.

[ph] with

Hello?

MR.

[ inaudible] .

[Beep . ] MS .

[in background; inaudible].

MR.

[ inaudible] .

MS .

[ inaudible] .


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[inaudible conversation in background.]

MR.

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[News broadcast.]

[inaudible] and it reportedly has been hit by [inaudible] .

There is a gaping h o l e - -

MS .

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Boston Center, National

:

Boston's here.

[inaudible] Tracey. MR.

Hello.

MR. [ph]

at

NTSB

T h i s is

Bob ICr-ess

Hello.

MR .

Hello .

MR.

Boston's here.

MR

Oh, hi.

It's Bob Kress at

NTSB . MR.

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Yes, sir?

MR.

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We're just trying to get a

time a departure, time a crash. MR. departure time.

:

Okay.

I can get

you

Hold on a sec.

MR.

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Okay.

MR.

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And Bob, we're doing an NCRF

[?] now just to try to pull the data.

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MR.

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Okay.

And we're sure this

was the, the flight that hit the, obviously that hit the World Trade Center is the same-,~*

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'• Working from what we saw,

there's no doubt. Okay.

MR.

Did the pilot report

the hij ack? MR.

Yes; yes.

1200 departed

MR.

I'm sorry.

MR.

It departed Boston at 1200.

MR .

At 1200 Zulu?

MR.

Yes .

MR

And when did he report the

MR

You know what?

Boston. What?

hij ack?

the time in front of me.

I don't have

We got a tape downstairs

that confirms it. MR.

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[inaudible] probably about

:

Yeah, about 15, 20 minutes

15, 20 minutes - MR.

after departure, we do have the, the voice


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recording that's been pulled.

We'll be able to get

that at some point in time. MR.

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Okay, and time a crash we

have as just a few minutes ago? MR.

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Yeah.

MR.

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Okay.

:

No, we di--you know what?

Do we have the number

of people on board? MR.

What we had, we, we cleared him to, to an altitude and that was — the next transmissions we heard were conversations in the cockpit. MR.

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Okay.

I'm just gonna hold

the line but I'm gonna go and talk to my boss.

MR.

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Tony.

MS .

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[inaudible] at New York

MR .

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No.

MS .

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Flights?

MR.

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All traffic entering New York

airport s ? The

overflights.

Center, they're not taking any hand-offs. MR.

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Hello?


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Hey, Tom, are you still

MR.

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Yes, I am, Jerry.

MR.

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Let m e - - I ' m gonna reconfirm

there?

with, with downstairs, but — MS.

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Okay.

I don't know if we're

gonna get a answer or not — [Two different conversations going on here at once.] MR.

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All right.

Well, just for

MS.

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Anything that we can do for

:

Just for your records, I'm

your —

you on this end? MR.

totally ground stopped going southbound into New York Center. MS

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Okay.

MR

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And, and this is [inaudible]

MR.

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Yes .

MR.

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Boston here.

MR.

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Appreciate it.

New York?

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I'm ground

stopped going into

MR

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Yes, please do, because we've

you .

got another' •we've got a major problem here too. [ inaudible] MR.

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Okay.

MS .

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Hey, New York?

MR.

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Yes .

MS.

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New York, do we need to

ground stop more than just Boston? MR.

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We've had-- somebody hit the

World Trade Center, we've got another one aiming, we just l o s t - - w e lost the second one now. MR.

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[inaudible] another one.

MR.

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Another o n e - -

MS .

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Okay, okay.

So we can

ground

stop anything going to and from New York Center. MR.

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Listen.

You got a second one

just hit the World Trade Center.

You b e t t e r - -

[Simultaneous conversation.] MS.

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Okay; all right.


Here we go.

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The second one just hit the

MR.

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Okay; this is

MR.

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Okay.

MR. Trade Center--

Boston.

You know, we gotta get

t o - - w e gotta the alert the military real quick on this . MR.

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[inaudible]

hit

another--another airplane just crashed in the other tower. MR.

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Do we know what type, Terry?

MR.

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No.

We just got that report

from, from New York Center. MR.

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All right.

All right.

:

Tommy, we're gonna

We're

standing by. MR. we're gonna suggest

stop--but

shut, we're gonna shut Boston down.

I

the same elsewhere. MR.

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You're

gonna do what, Terry?

MR.

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We're shutting the airplanes

down; we're not letting anyone go right now. MR.

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That's a good move.

waiting to hear from Security.


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MR.

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We're pretty brushed up on

everything.

Tony.

There's a second plane that just the

World Trade Center. MR.

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Stop all departures out of

:

So yeah, that's what we're

the Center, please. MR. doing. [Conversation in background.] MR.

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Hey

[inaudible] ground stop

all traffic, it means everything. MS. now, Bill.

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We're gonna do that right

There's too much going on for them to

handle all the planes. MS.

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Center, New England. MR.

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MS . MR.

There's just

[inaudible].

This is the Operations Can I interrupt for a minute. Go ahead. Go ahead.

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It appears that it was a

different aircraft that hit the World Trade Center It's being reported on CNN Right now. MR.

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[Start tape side 2.] MR.

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This is a continuation of

Position 15, time now 9:05 local. MR. on that

:

Tony.

[inaudible] it said

"Tferry.

It's confirmed

"We have planes."

[ Pause . ]

MR.

[ inaudible] .

MR.

No; no.

That's, that's not a

bad quest ion.

MR.

[ inaudible] - -

MR .

[inaudible] have cell phones.

MR.

Hey, Tony.

MR .

[ inaudible] .

MR .

We'd have to check w i t h - -

MR.

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Jerry, go ahead.

MR.

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Is there a way or to try to

get messages to the airborne for crew secur--security for the cockpit or something, the Acars

[?] or

something?


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MR.

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I just do not have

anybody

else up there that can-MR.

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But is that international

gonna come in f r o m - - t o Kennedy?

We're trying to

talk to them but we don't want to scare

anybody,

but we want the--you know, we were talking about possibly making some transitions on frequencies for these guys coming overseas, to just, you know, increase the security for cockpit operations. MR.

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?7"e rry, we're getting a lotta

traffic on this bridge.

I copied that.

Let's keep

doing that, through the Command Center, the ATA rep, see if we can get the airline company operations to their aircraft.

I'd

recommend maybe a possibility of the stuff coming in from overseas, Bangor as an alternate site; but leave that up to them. MR.

:

Yeah.

We'll leave it up to

them but we're also gonna let 'em know to fix [?] security for cockpit access. MR.

:

All right.

That sounds

a good pi an.


like

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[Inaudible background conversation.] MS.

:

This is New England waiting

MR.

:

This is ACI.

MS.

:

Okay.

on I --ACI, please.

This is New England.

We have our security division in a conference and we'd like to add you on as well or connect the two of you.

MR.

:

Okay.

ACI is on this line

and it is my understanding that they're activating the center upstairs. MS.

:

I'm sorry; we were cut off.

They're activating what? MR.

:

They're activating the

reaction center upstairs. MR.

That's

correct.

Okay.

[inaudible]?

MS .

Okay.

We

MR.

Okay.

Thank you.

MR.


MR.

[inaudible], please.

MS .

:

Okay.

ACI is connected [inaudible] ACI.


Tony

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:

Stand by.

MS.

:

ACI has

[inaudible]

on the bridge

[inaudible].

[inaudible]

The

just go ahead

and speak up. MS.

:

[inaudible] let me turn off

the mike cause you might be wanting to establish another - MR.

:

He's working

on it right now.

MS.

:

That was - -

MR.

:

Hey, New England Com Center,

did you say that security has a separate conference going on? [Background conversation.] MR.

:

Maybe you already done this

[inaudible] advise all the dispatchers for any international traffic coming i n - MR.

:

New England Region Com

MR.

:

Yes; go ahead.

MR.

:

[inaudible]

Center.

security has a

separate - [Simultaneous conversation.]


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Hey, Atlanta, the

[inaudible]

delay is 20, 30 minutes off the ground-MR.

:

—telecon going on

:

--[inaudible].

[inaudible ] . MR.

wondering if I could south to Collyer

I was

off-load a couple en routes

[?] [inaudible] 4 3 7 - -

[ Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

--[inaudible] 844

:

Actually,

[?]

[inaudible] are. MR. setting it up now. there.

They're

There

they're just

isn't a lotta people on

all plugging on now.

MR.

:

Yes

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Okay; thanks.

MR.

:

All

MR.

:

righty.

[inaudible].

[Beeps audible.] MS.

:

Command Center.

Wanda.

[Simultaneous conversation.] MR. England Region.

:

[inaudible]

Cleveland,

New

I'd just advise you our aircraft


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has advised

they stopped

all traffic in

the New England Region. MR.

:

Okay.

Thank you very much

MS .

:

All

MR.

:

Tony, they're carrying--

MR.

:

Terry

MR.

:

All right.

We show that here. right.

[?], I'm here. What we know now,

both a these airplanes took off from Boston. American 11, United 175.

So I don't know what you

wanna do down there with those

guys, but they

both

took off outta Boston, it seems. MR.

:

Boston has been ground

MR.

:

I understand.

stopped. So I don't

know what, security-wise, down there-MR.

:

Yeah; they're on that.

Terry, if you can, if you can on another l i n e - - t h i s bridge is getting too congested. extension, 7583. MR. [inaudible].

Another

I need to get some information. :

This

is Bob Griffin

[ph] at

I just want to get info on that


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United flight, the 757. MR.

:

Terry, can you call me on

MR.

:

Tommy, I'm going to 7583

7583 .

[inaudible] will get back to you. MR.

:

Hey, Tom.

MR.

:

Boston.

MR.

:

This is Tony.

Center East.

What can I do to help you out?

can I do with arrivals, departures? MR.

It's Command

:

What

You tell me.

Hold on.

Well, Tony, number one, the departures were--we, we put everybody on the ground.

We told

towers not to let anyone go at all; it'll be just the arrivals and which is the normal flow of the arrivals. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Hold on; let me talk to my

sup about it . Hey, what do you need? MR.

:

Hello, Boston?

Boston?


Hello,

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MR. MR. out?

:

What can I do to help you

This is Tony at the Command

Center.

MR.

:

You called, you called;

MR.

:

I called you guys to see what

right?

I could do to help you out. MR. departures.

:

Right now, nothing as far as

We're just carrying forward as we go.

Right now, we're just doing reroutes.

Right now,

we've put everything on the ground. MR.

:

Arrivals.

Expecting possible

diverts coming into your airspace-MR.

:

I would say possible

diversions are, are gonna happen and New York needs to move 'em into Washington Center's airspace to come up over Calverton

[?] [inaudible] .

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Well, okay.

the issues on the MR.

[inaudible] :

They're working

traffic

inbound.

Hold on one second.

the sup here.


I got

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MR.

Andy

MR.

Yes .

[?]?

MR.

[ inaudible]

MR .

Hi .

MR.

:

sprint on him.

And look at United

175, do a

They think that might be the guy

that was second. MR.

Yes .

MR.

He w a s - - i s he ?

MR. him, 764 DLX

:

Bos — well, Boston did work

:

Yeah.

[?] .

MR. through

And did you run him

the machine, see if he stopped on the

transponder, showed

a —

[Simultaneous conversation.] MR. don't know. MR.

:

That would

[inaudible].

I can do a sprint on him also. :

Yeah, do a sprint on him and

let's start taking a look

Dan

be

at him;

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

All right.

okay?

Give me a shot,

[?] .


I

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MR.

:

Check.

MR.

:

Bye .

MR.

:

[inaudible]?

MR.

:


MR .

:

Hi.

Hello.

Boston.

Tony.

Listen, both of

these aircraft departed Boston, both were 76s, both heading to LA, and I'm looking I think that all departures

out on the TFD, and

outta Boston

have heightened cockpit security. you can bring up every center

should

Is there any way

in the country and

relay that message, so that they can tell the aircraft, that are out there flying right now, to increase the cockpit security, vigilance on this day? MR.

:

I'll get the message out.

MR.

:

Thank

you very much.

MR

FAA Tactical Net.

MR

Tactical Net.

MR

Who you trying

touch with?

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:

to come on

MR.

I was

advised that AT700 [ph]

[inaudible].

:

This is Air Traffic.

MR.

:

What was the question?

MR.

:

We 111

[?] that.

[inaudible] .

[Inaudible background

McNair

conversation.]

MR.

:

FAA Tactical N e t ; go ahead.

MS.

:

Hello.

This

is Loretta

[ph] in Brussels, Belgium.

Is anyone from

security a part of the net?

anything

MR.

:

That's affirmative.

MS.

:

Okay.

I'm just wondering

if

is being coordinated with respect to all

security persons at this time in the system?

MR .

Stand by, Loretta.

MR .

Peter Falcone

Marcus Arroyo

[ph'

[ph], this is

Is--which net is this?

MR .

This is Tactical, Marcus.

MR .

Okay .

MR .

FAA Tactical Net to AEU 700.

MR.

This is AEU 700.


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This is Dominic. MR.

Disregard.

:

Make that Europe, Dominic

Loretta McNair?

MS .

:

Yes .

MR.

:

You can drop off, Loretta

AGO 100. MS .

Okay.

MR.

Tactical net clear.

I sure will; thank

you .

told

MR.

:

I already did it.

MR.

:

Listen; listen.

'em, I already gave

[inaudible]

I already instruction,

[inaudible] the gates, our people will detail [inaudible] any truck deliveries, they've gotta confirm 'em outside the fence. MR .

:

Break, Dominic.

You have got

MR.

:

Oh, sorry.

MR.

:

Okay.

MR .

:

New York, this is Boston.

an open mike.

Are you there?

New York Center?


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:

Cleveland.

MR.

:

Cleveland, this is Tony at

the Command Center. Delta 1989.

I want to get you advised of a

You know, you're aware of the two

aircraft that crashed

in the World Trade Center;

correct ?

The

MS .

Yes .

MR.

Both were Boston

to LAX 767.

third - MS

[ inaudible] .

MR

--767 on the exact same route

is Delta 1989.

We just want to make sure--he

should be in your airspace

I'm told by the New

England Region, and we just want to make sure that we have good with that aircraft. MS.

:

MS.

:

Hold on a second.

Delta

1989 . [inaudible]

Bureau of Investigation. MR.

:

with the

Federal

[inaudible] .

Can I help you?


Or do you

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Better yet.

him, flight level 350 is where he's at right now. MR.

:

Okay.

Would you make sure

that the captain is aware of the situation going

on . MS.

:

Okay.

And just one question

that was asked of me here.

Were both of the other

two aircraft American? fO MR.

:

One American.

We cannot

confirm at all; that probably not both the same carrier.

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:

Okay.

MR.

:

Go ahead.

•

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[Simultaneous conversation by two different parties.] MR.

:

Was that FBI ing--

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

This is FB!,,.{_

MS

:

Thank you.

•'MIR--,

:

Thank you, sir.

at SIOC.

9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy


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:

[inaudible] you probably met

me when I was out in Sacramento

[inaudible].

[Inaudible background conversation.] MR.

:


MR.

:

Hi, Tony.

Boston TRACON.

It's

Tony.

Brian in

Listen, I got some information

you, it may or may not be important.

for

We had—you

know about America 11 and United; right?

Hello?

MR.

:

We know about them; go ahead.

MR.

:

Okay.

We have a--right about

the same time both a those guys departed Boston and both were Los Angeles arrivals, we had a 767, at about the same time, there was also a Delta 1989-MR.

:

Right.

We, we've ed

Cleveland on him. [Simultaneous conversation.] You- -

MR. MR.

i s --he's

:

They're talking to him

near Pittsburgh now. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

We have ed them

We're using extra security with them.


He

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:

Okay; -great.

Thanks.

MR.

:

And £6& guys have departures

on "the ground, right?-at--- ~X! MR.

:

Yeah, we do, we do have 'era

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Okay; thanks.

MR.

:

What do you need?

on the ground.

Bye.


:

Tactical Net to East Region.

MR. -

:••'---.This'is Eastern Region.

MR.

:

Can you call me on

MR.

:

Hold on a s e c o n d .

Go

ahead. J

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last MR . MR.

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here.

Either you or Maryland, probably go around

to see who knows what in here about [inaudible] know any more than you or I know. [Inaudible background conversation.] [Phone ringing.] MS.

:

Cleveland.

MS.

:

Cleveland.

[inaudible].

It's Carla

Hey, I got a question for you.

Are

you talking to American 11 right now, that just crossed over the boundary? MS.

:

No.

You don't have anything on

MS .

active radar? MS .

No .

MS .

Okay; okay.

MS .

Bye .

MR.

:

Thank you.

Bye

The first flight, first

flight, Boston-LA, 1100 grid

[?], Boston to LA, it

was hijacked, pilot under duress. MR.

:

We have an open mike on the

TAG Net.


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:

Pete Sarconi

[ph] , are

you

monitoring the Tactical Net? MR.

:

Affirmative.

MR.

:

Okay.

Go ahead,

Marcus .

11, American Flight 11. Flight 77.

We know about Flight

We know about American

Are you aware of United 175?

MR . ^'MR./)^^/^

:

Negat i ve .

:

Okay.

Air traffic is

reporting that they've lost Flight 175 off a radar. United 175. from.

We don't know where it originated

We believe it might have also been Dulles.

They lost it over Indiana. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

This is preliminary.

MR .j\fl £ J\.' )

:

Okay.

Last position was

over

Indiana . MR. /'5/^'Vi'

:

Guys, this is Boston.

175 was off a Boston. MR .

Was outta Boston?

MR .

Yes .

MR .

Okay .


United

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[Inaudible background MR.

:

conversation.]

Back to Marcus, that comes

from our air traffic? MR.fj'/

That comes from our Air

Traffic .

and,

MR.

:

Okay; clear.

MR.

:

Okay.

Who, who just came on

and said it was outta Boston?

conflicting information, Pete.

We're getting

I'd like to confirm

who, who came no and said that United 175 was outta Boston?

Over . MR .

No.

Is, is your IRS here?

MR .

FAA Tactical Net to that last

party reporting on UAL 175.

MR.

:

lost it over Indiana.

That's what--they said they I wonder if that means--


:

[inaudible] drop off for

:

Okay.

another telecon. MR.

TAG Net back to

Marcus, you're getting your info from Air Traffic? MR.

:

That

is correct.


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:

Okay.

We'll, we'll go with

that till further notice. MR.

:

All right.

We're going to

follow 175 out of Dulles, at Dulles. MR.

:

Dave, go ahead.

MR.

:

[inaudible] clear.

MR.

:

They lost all with it

over Indiana but they could a found

Okay.

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Boston, are you with us?

MR.

:

Open, Tom.

MR.

:

Okay.

Say again.

Stand by, please.

It looks like I have everyone

Boston Center. Center, NTMO

on here except

This is the Air Traffic Command

[?] on duty in the west area.

I need

to have all traffic management units do an inventory, basically

an inventory of all airborne

traffic, ensure that you do not have any unusual situations or any aircraft that are not ed for. If you have any unusual situations or uned-for aircraft, identify them and us here at the Command Center.


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:

Hey, Command

Center.

MR.

:

Ed

MR .

:

What about

MR.

:

I would think we would

Command

Center. [?].

the VFRs?

primarily be concerned with commercial aircraft. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

All right.

Thanks.

MS.

:

Okay.

first part of

That

that statement was you just want-MR.

:

I want--

MS.

:

-- [inaudible]

you want a count of everything MR.

:

No.

situations or

[inaudible]?

I want, I want--I want

specific information, if there are any

unusual

informations-MS.

:

Okay, got--

MR.

:

--involving commercial

aircraft or any missing aircraft. have dropped

off; anything

Any targets that

of that nature.

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MS.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

This

is FBI Boston, we're

trying to get an update on one of the agents

[?] at

the a irport. MR.

:

[inaudible].

MS.

:

United 93 may have a bomb on

board.

MR

Okay.

United

93.

Who's

speaking ?

MS

Cleveland Center.

MR.

:

Okay.

Cleveland, what's his

origination and destination?

MS.

:

Is- -

MR

:

Out of Newark

going

to San

:

Out of Newark

going

to San

Franc i s co. MS. Francisco.

His position is 20 — 15 East — naturally

he's farther than that. His exact position

He's east of Dryer

[?].

is 30 miles east of Dryer.

MR.

:

Great Lakes--

MR.

:

Okay.

You have a

on this aircraft, or did he go primary?


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MS.

:

At this time he's code 1527

and we still have a transponder. MR.

:

any additional

Okay.

information

And can you give me as to why you believe

there may be a bomb? MS.

:

Because he's creaming that on

MR.

:

Okay; very good.

MR.

:

the frequency.

[inaudible] an update

from

FAA- MR.

Anyone else?

MR.

Tactical Net back to Boston—

MR.

All right.

MR.

The head FBI is on.

I'm disconnecting

now .

MR. preliminary

:

Okay.

information,

We have two reports,

believed to be American

Airlines Flight 77 and Flight 11 collided with World Trade Center.

Also a preliminary report,

United Airlines Flight 175 off radar; no further informat ion. MR.

Okay.

So that's American 77


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and United 175? MR. MR.

That's correct. :

Do we have their airport of

origin on both of those? MR.

:

Okay.

Back to FBI.

It's

America Flight 77, second flight is 11, those are the two aircraft believed to be involved with the World Trade Center.

Route is reported as Dulles to

Los Angeles for 77.

Boston to Los Angeles for 11.

United Airlines is not believed to be involved in World Trade Center at this time. MR.

Okay.

So it's American 77

and American 11? MR .

That's, that's correct.

MR .

And American 11 was Boston to

MR.

That's the report I've got.

MR.

Okay.

LA?

And the other one was

Dulles to LA?

Dulles to LAX.

MR.

MR.

:

I've got

[inaudible] second

one's American Airlines--


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:

[inaudible] I asked about any

suspicious aircraft. MR.

:

Yeah.

MR.

:

Okay.

I w a s - - I missed

someone, I thought it was you.

Okay; thanks a lot.

MR.

:

Yeah; it was Boston you

MR

:

Oh.

MR

:

Another report was regarding

mi ssed.

United 175

We had a report that it was off the

radar. MR .

:

The United Airlines was not

:

Okay.

involved. MR.

Is that--where was

that United 175 from? MR.

:

We're getting conflicting

reports on that, FBI, on the 175. MR.

:

Where did it go off radar?

MR.

:

United one seventy--

[Hang-up sound.] MR. FBI.

:

Stand by, please.

Back to

I've got a report from Eastern, FAA Eastern


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Region Air Traffic, that it dropped off radar over Indiana.

MR.

And United

MR.

That's correct.

175?

MR.

:

Do you know where

' ''.' J'CCMR.

:

Excuse me; negative.

not correct.

that-That's

That's American 77 that dropped off a

radar in Indiana Center. ji/T'"' ' • •-! MR.

:

Okay.

Who's that reporting,

please? /TIC SCC MR.

:

The Air Traffic

Systems

Command Center here in Herndon, Virginia. MR.

:

Thank you, sir.

MR.

:

Yes.

Copy FBI?

We have American 77--

Here's the recap from Command Center.

We have

American 11, was the first one, Boston to LAX. United 175, Boston

to LAX.

The third aircraft,

American 77 was a Dulles to LAX, was lost off radar in southern

Indiana; whereabouts are still unknown.

They're trying

to recreate

some radar data.

United 93 is the fourth aircraft in Cleveland Center airspace.

That was a Newark


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to San Francisco and there was some

screaming

heard on board

reference

to a bomb being

MR.

the aircraft and a on board.

:

Eastern Region Tech Net to

MR.

:

Tactical Net, go ahead.

MR.

:

Okay.

Headquarters

Tech.

We have a fast-moving

VFR aircraft moving towards just been

the White House.

informed now that it's moving away

the White House.

Be alert

We've from

that this is information

coming from air traffic. MR.

:

TAG Net

MR.

:

United 99, Newark

Francisco

copy. to San

[inaudible] .

MR.

:

No; it' s United 93 ; not

99 .

93 .

Hello?

MS .

MR.

:

information, Command

And just Center

basically a nationwide and

for everyone's

has implemented

ground stop

for all arrivals

departures.

MR.

[inaudible]

World


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MR.

This is Boston FBI to FAA

MR.

This is the FAA Command

Control.

Center in Washington. MR. wondering

:

Yeah.

This is Boston.

I was

if I could just run down those-[ Simultaneous conversation.]

MR.

:

Command Center.

MR.

:

Hey,

[inaudible].

listen, I know you guys are busy. for you and hope you can answer

Jim,

I got a question

it.

What are we

doing with traffic that a r e - - t h a t is en route? I've got one aircraft that's an Angel flight, that's flying through Raleigh-Durham's airspace en route to Charlotte.

I mean, am I supposed to tell

this tell this guy to divert and land at Raleigh or can he continue on his way? MR. departures

:

We're just stopping

from going.

MR.

:

If

[inaudible]

in the air--

He's in the air, we let him


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Very well.

That's all I wanted to know, sir.

Thank you. MR.

:

--Boston to LA, Boeing 767.

The other two flight call signs that we have now are United 93 and American 77. [Inaudible background conversation.]

Center.

MS .

:

Okay.

Lee?

MR.

:

United 93 was where?

MS.

:

Eastern Region Command

:

United 93, originally

Dawn. MR.

d e s t i - - f r o m Newark destined to San Francisco. American 77 is Washington Dulles to Los Angeles. MR.

:

77 and 93 had problems, or

have they dropped from radar? MR.

:

We believe- -we're attempting

to get further--we believe American 77, there might have been reports of screaming on the frequency. MR. of the Pentagon!

:

A plane hitting the west side

A plane's hitting the west

of the Pentagon. MR.

:

Please report that


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:

west side of the

Report of a plane hitting the

Pentagon.

MR.

:

FAA Tech.

MR.

:

Lee, that came from Air

Traffic.

Who's reporting?

They were tracking that airplane on

radar. [Inaudible background

conversation.]

[Beeps audible.] MR.

:


MR.

:

Yeah.

Tony.

Our United--! need to

talk to someone and keep an open line here. this United MR.

We got

starting to descend. :

United 93?

MR .

93; yes.

MR .

Thank

you.

I'll get right

now . MR.

:

Yeah, United

93 starting to

descend in Cleveland, Cleveland Center's MR.

airspace.

:

Hey, Cleveland, we got people

:

Okay.

1ikening. MR.

We just lost the


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transpon--transponder on United 93.

He had

reversed direction, is heading eastbound.

He's

about over or west of Akron at this time. MR.

:

Okay.

So when was the last

communication we had with him? MR.

:

Quite a while ago.

We had

something on a tape we're trying to pull, we thought we heard mention of a bomb.

We're not

sure . MR.

:

Anything else I can to help

:

No.

you right now? MR. keep you advised MR.

I just, just want to

We're not sure where he's going :

Okay.

I'll keep the line

MR .

:

Yeah.

I think so.

MR .

:

Let's do that.

MR.

:

Okay, and just so you know,

open if you like

we've lost the transponder completely and are not tracking the primary, so we don't know where the aircraft i s. MR.

Okay; thank you.


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MR.

:

[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

Negative at this time.

If we

get any additional information we'll it on. MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

What

MR.

:

Tactical N e t - -

MR.

:

And this is Cleveland Center.

:

It is the Command Center with

[inaudible]?

Who's up? MR.

about five or six people listening. MR.

:

Okay.

Mr.

[inaudible], the

chief, just asked if we have any military up or not?

Are we pursuing

that?

We'd like to be able

to track this guy so we know what's going on, especially when we lose a transponder. MR.

:

We have been in with

the military cell here in the building and they're working

the issue.

I'm not sure where they are

with-MR

FAA Tech Net,

Center.


FAA Command

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:

-- [inaudible] and also

there's a big conference going on— MR.

:

—[inaudible] we have an

aircraft that's claiming to be a presidential-MR.

:

- - w i t h , with basically

[inaudible] including the FBI and-MR.

:

--[inaudible] unit, and wants

to go JFK, 12, 120 radio at 056 and we n e e d - MR.

:

--there's discussions

about

the military, possible military involvement. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

--[inaudible] in fact

d with that, you know, that entity, and before we would permit that to occur. MR.

:

[inaudible] just a "heads

up," and they may have better

[inaudible]--


:

[inaudible] Air Force One

[inaudible] for today, we'll -MR .

:

[inaudible] and

then away

from the White House. MR.

:

And about 28 minutes out, we

MILLER REPORTING CO., INC. 735 8th STREET,

S.E.

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:

Okay, FAA TAG Net, FAA

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net, go ahead.

MR.

:

Okay.

Command Center.

Center.

This is the Command

We've received a report that United 93 is

descending in the area of Cleveland, the city of Cleveland, Ohio. MR.

:

[inaudible] 93 is descending

:

Okay.

over Cleveland. MR.

I've got that.

93

descending over Cleveland? MR.

:

That's the latest report that

we have received at the FAA Command Center. MR.

:

And we're trying to find any

aircraft that might be in the vicinity, that might, could at least give us a visual, if there is an aircraft out there. MR.

:

They said 29 minutes out?

Cleveland, you estimated about 29 minutes out from Washington? MR.

:

28, we believe, but again


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We're not a 100

percent and we're trying to get some kind a visual confirmation, as I said, from another aircraft that might be in the vicinity. MR.

:

And you guys

[inaudible] all

the information and flight plan on United 93; correct ? MR.

:

Newark to San Francisco.

MR.

:

Yeah.

All right.

know what type aircraft and all that. MR. TSC.

:

So you Okay.

[inaudible] I got it on the

I'm sure it's not as accurate as, as we'd

like; but

I do have something.

MR.

:

[inaudible]

MR.

:

No; no.

MR.

:

Bill.

towards

Cleveland.

to make copies of handle calls.

We're fine. Bill.

Get, get John

[inaudible] you stay here and

John.

John.

Go ahead and make

multiple copies of that and start ing around in the Ops Center.

'em

That's the latest we


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Here's a copier. one in Op D

That copier is jammed.

[ph], if that one's jammed.

Straight up and to the left. MR.

:

threat on board

[inaudible] report of a bomb

background conversation.] :

the aircraft.

Thank you.

[inaudible].

[Inaudible MR.

Op

[inaudible] going away from

Let's see

around the White House.

[inaudible] on alert One of

[Inaudible background

[inaudible].

conversation.]

MR.

:

Command

Center,

Cleveland.

MR.

:

He might be up in Op C making

copie s MR.

Command Center

MR .

--of t h a t - -

MR.

:

We're listening.

MR.

:

Okay.

We have an unconfirmed

report here, right now, that Pittsburgh is ATCO and we have another aircraft confirmed hijacking at Delta.

We b e l i e v e - - w e believe it's 89.

Delta

1989, which was out at Boston, is inbound to Cleveland.

Somehow apparently did, they did


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confirm the hijacking on the frequency. MR.

:

This is John.


:

FAA TAG back to Air Traffic

Command. Air Traffic

MR

Command

Center

Go ahead. MR.

:

We're still working that

request on - [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

All right.

And just a "heads

up" now on the Delta 1989. MR.

:

Okay.

His call, call sign--

MR.

:

He is actually still at

27,000 feet and heading westbound, west of the Dryer View R

[?] about 20 to 30 miles, 270.

I do

not know if we're communicating at this time but we are confirming now that he's a hijack. MR.

:

Okay; thanks.

I [inaudible]

he re . MR.

Okay .

MR.

You still show him westbound,


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:

Yeah.

Yes, he is still going

MR.

:

You said his destination is

west .

now Cleveland; correct? MR. correct.

:

No; no.

That was not

We thought he was going in but he's

continuing west 270.

We do not know--the original

destination you mean or-MR.

:

No.

He - - originally he was

:

Right; right.

going to LA. MR.

No; we do not

know where he's going at this time.

We just know

he was over Cleveland at one point.

We thought

that when, when you reported the hijacking he was going in there; but apparently not.

With

a

MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

948, you have an aircraft

Call

MR. if anyone's MR.

sign,

is |

:

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And are you guys--do you know

tracking the United at all? :

The 93?

No; we don't know if


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anybody's go

tit.

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

--[inaudible] JFK, they can't

identify this aircraft.

They're

trying to do

that-MR.

:

All right.

Our best guess is

that he's a primary that's 2 - 0 , 20 miles south of Elwood City

[?], southeastbound, no altitude report

because his clock's off. MR.

:

All right.

20 miles south of

Elwood City and you think he's still eastbound; correct. MR.

:

Southeastbound; yes.

The

primary we're tracking, that we believe is him. MR.

:

FAA Tactical Center to Air

:

Yeah, he's moving at a good

Traffic Command. MR.

speed, so I mean there shouldn't be too many other primaries out there that'd be moving that fast

but- MR.

Okay; understood; thank you

MR.

—you know, we're not


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posit i ve. MR.

Is Pittsburgh ATCO?

MR.

We don't know yet; we're

trying to find out. MR .

:

We've got a aircraft--

MR .

:

Hey,

MR.

:

Yes .

MR .

:

This is

Cleveland?

[inaudible].

I just

had a national conference, you weren't on it. just advised everyone

We

to, to land traffic anywhere

feasible, you know, do the best we can to get them on the ground.

I think, you know, you may already

be doing something

along those

lines

[inaudible]

you know, advise them to do the best they c a n - [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

Okay, we have a report--

MR.

:

- - t r a f f i c on the ground.

MR.

:

--from Air Traffic--

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Delta 1989, Cleveland

Boston, confirmed hijacking.

Delta 1989,

Cleveland-Boston, confirmed hijacking.


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:

Okay.

952.

MR.

:

All right.

the hijack is now descending. Waterville

I've got D e l t a - The Delta that's

He's about over

[?] [inaudible] the Toledo area.

MR.

:

This

is the FAA Air Traffic

Command-[Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

Delta 1989, Boston to

Cleveland, a Boeing 767, and we're getting indications from Cleveland Center the aircraft is being hijacked. MR.

:

We've got Delta

1989,

Cleveland to Boston-[ Simultaneous conversation.] MR. Eastern Region.

:

Washington Tactical Net to

Air traffic is clearing all

airspace in the Washington area, all aircraft incoming are being diverted, clearing the area completely out. ground.

All aircraft

are being held on the

Over. MR.

:

Okay.

I copied that Eastern


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Region, all aircraft being held on the ground Eastern Region. MR.--

-.

: -Aircraft c.laimirtg to be a

presidential aircraft, call sign]_

|.

They wanted a radio- MR 7\v Command Center, Cleveland. MR.

:

Go ahead. Do we consider this secure?

r

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

And this is the FAA Air

Traffic- [Simultaneous conversation.]........ . , C-C MR .v^fff^J^-:

As secure as we have

[inaudible] . MR.

:

--[inaudible] that Delta 1989

is currently in the vicinity of Toledo, Ohio. MR.

:

Toledo, Ohio.

Delta 1989 is

in the vicinity of Toledo, Ohio. MR. [inaudible].

:

This is the Boston

What was the originating point for-

Delta 1989?

•.4

-r.~

MR.

: .Okay, we've talked; to


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to t h e - [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

--United jet was going right

over the top a their facility at that

[inaudible]

as best we knew. MR.

:

Right.

We'll have agents go

over and check that. MR.

So that's the issue there

MR.

Okay .

MR.

Okay .

MR .

The only other issue

then

is- [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

The i n d i c a t i o n also,

the

:

-- [inaudible] westbound

original - MR.

toward Chicago and now turning back northeastbound, currently

eastbound,

in the area of Toledo,

Ohio .

MR.

:

Is there anything else we

need to know?


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W e l l , they say t h a t - -

MR.

Understand.

We'll have

agents go their immediately. MR.

:

The pilot of the Delta we're

talking to, he's presently going into Cleveland,

so we're getting a little bit

a contradictory report. now that he is

telling us that he's

Okay.

And they're

saying

[inaudible]--

MR.

:

[inaudible]?

MR.

:

The pilot is saying that he

is not a trip

[?] flight but we're just not a 100

percent sure because there's been some inconsistencies MR.

[inaudible]. :

We've identified the location

or the departure point for aircraft number one.

At

approximately 1203 Zulu time, aircraft-[Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

[inaudible] Delta

could confirm for us, through company

company

company, he's

saying

told him that he was not--that he was just

going to Cleveland for precautionary measures. MR.

:

--[inaudible] about


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MR.

Tr-^=MR;-

:

But we're not sure.

:

--{inaudible] looks like--


:

Check with, check with Delta.

MR.

:

Yeah.

MR.

:

Right.

:

We have, Rick.

And that's all we

have; right? MR.

I tried to

get in touch with Poughkeepsie tower; however, the phone lines are overloaded and the circuits are busy.

.'....-.

::

Do you know a time a

MR.

:

Affirmative.

MR.

:

Do you k n o w w h a t the

;

Yeah;

MR. departure?

1203 Z u l u t i m e . bridge

[inaudible]?

MR.

it's

right there.

bridge - [Inaudible

background conversation.] :

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right h e r e . . , ]

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Tell t h e m - -

MR .

[inaudible] to Eastern

Region.

Do you copy? [Start part 3.] MR.

position

15.

:

This is a continuation of

The time now is 9:55

MR.

:

local.

He was just going

Cleveland for a precautionary measure.

to But we're

not sure. MR.

:

Check with — we'll check with

Delta. Yeah.

MR. [Inaudible MR. Right there

Traffic

conversation in background.] :

[inaudible] Delta 1989.

[inaudible].

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

[inaudible]

MS .

:

[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

FAA Tactical Command to Air

Command, MR.

You

copy?

Zulu.

Herndon. :

Air Traffic Command, Herndon,

go ahead.


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MR.

Can we have a status on

United 93. MR.

Standby.

We'll try to

ascertain. [ Pause.] MR.

Anything

more on United 93,

Cleveland? MR.

I'm sorry; say again.

MR .

Anything

MR.

No.

more on United 93?

We've talked to

Washington, ca--showed them the primary believe he used.

Johnstown

Is he heading

[?] that we

in there?

MS .

:

[inaudible] .

MR.

:

All right.

2 9 - - 2 0 north of

now, the one that we believe is him.

We've coordinated

with Washington

to let them know

he's still proceeding southeastbound as far as we know . MR.

Cleveland, Command

MR.

Yes.

MR.

:

Center

Go ahead.

The Delta Airlines

[Simultaneous conversation.]


advises

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FAA t e c h - -

MR .

MR.

:

- - t h a t Delta 1989 is going

into Cleveland as a precautionary measure. MR.

:

Go ahead

MR.

:

Okay.

[inaudible].

[inaudible] United 93,

it is unconfirmed, they believe it's a primary target - MR.

:

Okay; thank you.

MR.

:

—20 miles northeast of

Johnstown, Pennsylvania, aircraft is presumably out eas tbound. MR.

:

Okay.

No radio ?

MR.

:

Negative; that is correct; no

radio . MR .

Okay.

I've got that.

Thank

you . MR.

:

There is an update on 93.

United Airline 93-[ Simultaneous conversation.] MS.

:

you're hearing with MR.

:

Tracey, you

[inaudible] what

[inaudible]-And Command

Center


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[inaudible] give us a decision, if they want us to do anything at Cleveland when this Delta lands. MR.

:

Stand by.

MR.

:

And Command Center, I know my

chief's talking to some people on the other line, but just so you know, we have an unconfirmed

report

from a VFR, he believes he saw the United down low, around 7500 feet. MR.

:

Thank you.

[Conversation in background.] MR.

:

0956 is the update on the

United-MR .

The location

of that, please.

MR .

Here you go; here's the

MR.

Stand by.

MR .

On United Airline 93, this is

update.

at 0956 our time MR. turning

:

All right.

He appears to be

east and we're trying to get an exact

location at this time. MR.

--three miles northeast of


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:

That's Johnstown.

MR.

:

That's Johnstown, Johnstown,

Pennsylvania.

It's eastbound; no radio .

MR.

:

[inaudible] VFRs.

MR.

:

All right.

To Indianhead,

174 at one-one m i l e s is what I'm being told, turn eastbound and we're fairly confirmed at eight thousand by VFR. MR.

:

still showing that. MR.

Thank you.

That' s- -you' re

Okay; got it.

:

Okay.

If you want

[inaudible] let me know, we can try and get those. [Conversation in background.] MR.

:

One seventy

[inaudible].

MR.

:

No; it's the United Airlines

[ inaudible] . MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

FAA TAC Net Air Traffic.

Looks like we got another plane down. MR.

:

This is FAA TAC; go ahead.

MR.

:

[inaudible].

The--we're


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Any

on some

further report--

, V

MR.

:

on

~j-

--' '

Yeah, this is FBI SILOC

[?].

We just have video, TV, the top of the World Trade Center dropped

into the streets.

MR.

:

Okay.

We're copying that on

MR.

:

Rick

MR.

:

And the United 93, what they

breaking news. [?], New York TRACON's

on .

now say is northwestbound, they say that the VFR is, is the CM, it's confirmed, and he's waving his wings, we're not sure what if anything that beamer [?] has to do with anything. [Simultaneous conversation by two different parties.] MR.

:

[inaudible] know that we're

going down to skeleton teams here in the building and I need him to give me a call if he has

a

problem with that. MR.

:

Okay, he's, he's back towards


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I'd say about a 80 heading, erratic,

a b i t , little bit of an e r r a t i c - MR.

:

FAA TAG Net and Net

MR.

:


MR.

:

Okay.

Air

Traffic.

The latest update we

received, the United 93 is currently 21 miles east of Johnstown,

Pennsylvania, heading eastbound, last

reported at 8,000 feet, and not in any radio . MR.

:

Okay, 8,000 feet eastbound,

21 miles east of Johnstown, MR.

:

MR.

Dusharm

That's

Pa.

No radio .

correct.

Back to New York TRACON

MR.

:

New York TRACON is here.

MR.

:

Do you have that party, Rick

[?] on the line? MR.

:

I don't hear him.

MR.

:

FA TAG Net to Rick Dusharm,

New York TRACON. Okay, New York, I'm reporting up, you're going down to skeleton team?


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MR.

MR.

:

Capitol, the Treasury, State Department. [inaudible].

They're evacuating the the White House and the

How about the FBI?

There's

Yeah.

MR.

:

And it now appears that the

United 93 is turning back towards the southeast again, really, right now, kind of I guess--! wouldn't say no holding pattern but not progressing in any one direction here.

up."

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Chip

[?], there's a "heads

We believe that Delta's now talking to

Cleveland approach, and right now we're treating it as not a hijack. MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

Mr. [inaudible], we've got

the Capitol, the White House-MR.

:

Okay, the United has now come

up, back on, his transponder's up, he's back on his, on his original code, 8200 feet. MR.

:

-Capitol.


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MR.

93 t r a n s p o n d e r ' s back

on .

MR. Great Lakes

:

Washington, Net FAA Security,

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Go ahead Great Lakes.

MR.

:

Washington, Oak Brook,

Illinois police are reporting receiving a 911 air phone call from a enger reporting to be on United Flight 93.

He's reporting three hijackers

on board with knives and making threats of a bomb on board. MR. reportedly

:

Okay.

I've got a enger

on United 93, three armed individuals

with knives ? MR. bomb threats.

:

Roger.

Reporting also making

The call was received by Oak Brook,

Illinois police, by 911 air phone. MR.

:

Cell phone.

MR.

:

Okay.

I got that.

911 air

phone. [Two different conversation going on.] MR.

:

93, cell phone call received


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enger. Both were PD.

MR. a enger.

In touch with

They still have the enger

on the

line?

. knives.

MR.

:

Three armed hijackers.

MR.

:

No; they do not.

MR.

:

Okay.

enger

broke

911 call, three armed individuals with Also bomb threats. MR.

:

With bomb threat.

broke, broke off cell phone.

[inaudible].

enger He's on a

It was a 911 call, Joe.

MR.

:

FAA TAG back t o - - w a s that

MR.

:

Roger.

MR.

:

Okay.

Great Lakes

region?

I've got it.

[inaudible] conversation in background.] MR.

:

That's a 9 - 1 , 911 cell

MS.

:

Go ahead, sir.

MR.

:

Yes.

phone - -

This is Fuller at

Pittsburgh approach control.

At 1345 w e - -


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:

Cleveland

MR.

:

Yes.

MR.

:

We're advised that there's a

Northwest

Command

Center?

aircraft, Pittsburgh to DC, I assume DCA,

I do not know that at the moment.

for sure,

that they are visiting

Can you look and see

MR.

[inaudible].

:

—onboard, that was bound for

MR.

:

Call sign?

MR .

:

But they lost radio

Los A n g e l e s - -

with-MR .

Don't have one.

MR .

--and it was turned around--

MR.

:

All right.

Pitt to DCA.

MR.

:

Try DCA, ID and BWI.

We're--right now, I'm just told Washington. MR.

:

All right.

What do they want

:

Anyone m e e t s , someone meets

:

Are there any

me to [inaudible]? MR . that

criteria

MR .


questions?

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:

Okay; hold on.

FR is off.

MR.

:

Here's an update on 93.

We

had the flight profile, is switch-off Pittsburgh, turned around, headed back towards Pittsburgh, overflew the airport and headed eastbound. MR.

Larry

MR.

Okay.

MR.


MR.

:

Okay.

[?]. FAA Net Air Traffic.

We received an update

on Delta 1989 - [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

Disregarding Northwest,

guess we're okay on that one.

I

Thanks a lot.

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

--we believe the aircraft

advised that they are not-MR.

:

I believe [inaudible] United

and let me give you a position. MR. at Cleveland. MR.

:

--and I believe are landing

It's Delta 1989. :

Okay.

So you've got radio

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:

Johnstown, VOR, JFT

Okay.

He was

16 south of

[?] and was leaving about a 140

heading and now we've lost all radar on him. [Different conversations ongoing at once.] MR.

:

[inaudible] comes in via

Delta Airlines. MR. MR.

That's the United. :

Okay.

who had his transponder MR.

:

Now that was the guy

back on; right?

Yeah, came on briefly and

then went back off with the primary and now we've lost him completely. approach.

Delta is working

Cleveland

They've advised us that they are going

to treat him like a trip aircraft on, on landing. MR.

:

It's landed safely at

MR.

:

[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

[inaudible] Delta 1989 has

Cleveland.

landed safely at Cleveland.

D e l t a - - y e a h , Delta

1989- MR

FAA TAG Net, FAA Air Traffic

Control.


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Stand by one, please.

MR

Okay.

MR.

That is correct.

That was Air Traffic

Command?

MR.

:

Go ahead, sir.

MR.

:

We have a request.

we - - faci1ities are

Are

checking with us to release

aircraft that may be associated with law enforcement activity and military activity— [Two different conversations ongoing.] MR.

:

We have a report in the

vicinity of the United, of black, black smoke here, just again the position I just gave you at Johnstown was the last known position.

We're

trying to see if we can get any ELT checks. MR.

:

- - t h a t are not airborne,

obviously aircraft that are en route are being advised to land at the closest destination, and we just wanted t o - - t h e national operations manager has a request

to clarify, that we were able to permit

military and law enforcement aircraft to fly. MR.

:

Okay.

So you're releasing


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:

Well, we're checking with,

with, with you and make sure that it's all right to do so . All right.

MR.

Let me look into

that one here MR.

:

Okay.

Can

I ask who

the

decision making authority is that you're in regar--your was there? MR.

:

Command Center, ACC.

MR.

:

Air Traffic Command Center;

:

Negative.

MR.

:

Yes; go ahead.

MR.

:

Okay.

go ahead. MR.

I'm replying to

your inquiry.

We're in with

the ACC director here at headquarters. MR.

:

Is that the c i v i l - - i s that

security director? MR . MR.

That's affirmative. :

Okay; thank you.

we'll--we have the national

operations


Okay. manager

So here

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at the Command Center, and we will, you know, await your work on military and law enforcement, if it's okay for them to go. MR.

:

Get right back to you.

MR.

:

Thank

MR.

:

Okay, and--okay.

lap longs

you very much. The last

[?] we have for the United are 3951

north, 07846 west. MR.

Copy that, Command Center? :

3951 north, 07846 west, last

:

Correct.

known position. MR.

FAA TAG Net back to Air

MR .

Traffic Command.

MR . MR. request.

Go ahead. :

We are working

on that

I'll get right back on it. MR.

:

Okay.

Thank you very much.

[Conversation in background.] MR. AC'S

:

Okay.

Do they know where the

[?] Command Center detail is located

[inaudible]? MR.

:

[inaudible].


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[ inaudible] .

MR.

FAA Air Traffic Command

Center. MR.

:

[inaudible] that are coming

into the East Coast later this afternoon. MR. This is Boston MR.

:

Can you please repeat that.

[inaudible]. :

We just wanted to see if

there's a command for the international arrivals that are already airborne, inbound to the Northeast. MR.

:

[inaudible] we'll have

somebody go over to the international terminal now. MR.

:

FAA Tactical Net to Air

Traffic Command, Herndon. MR.

:

MR .

Air Traffic Command. I have an affirmative on that

request to release law enforcement military aircraft. MR.

:

Okay, message received, and

we'd just advise you that a group of fighters and tankers have launched out of Maguire and in an


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effort to avoid being a potential target on the ground. MR.

:

Okay; got

it .

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net with an update.

MR.

:

Air Traffic Command Center,

New England Region.

MR.

:

Go ahead.

Air Traffic

:

Can you give us a call on a

Command, go ahead.

MR. separate line.

We're having trouble with the

bridge here . [ MR/.-...

:

Okay; you broke up. J_

You broke up after that. , MR.

,

:

...we'll give you a call.

MR. MR.

:

MR,

....--:"

Thank you. TAG Net with an update.

I

report all inbbund international flights are-. [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

: J W e do have

[inaudible]

a

downed aircraft, we' r<e-pas.sing along to the military nWw-.-via-' VFRy"in- -tehe- vicinity where we last

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MR

Roger.

MR

FAA TAG Net, FAA Air Traffic

MR.

Go ahead.

Control.

MR.

:

Okay.

We have several items.

Number one, Air Force One is airborne.

We have

some concerns, the Washington Center has some targets in the area that are unidentified and there are concerns for the, for the safety of that aircraft. MR. Command.

:

Okay.

Back to Air Traffic

Air Force One is airborne and several

unidentified targets in the Washington area posing a threat?

MR.

That is correct.

unsure of the targets.

We're

We just received

indication, and I'll try and confirm from where St andby one. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Do we have NMCC on board?

MR.

:

[inaudible]

NNC.


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MR

NMCC?

MR.

NMCC is on.

MR.

:

Military Command Center?

MR.

:

No, I believe that as the

Maintenance

Command

Center

TAC Net, we probably on here.

that checked

in and FAA

should get a military entity

We also received word

Jacksonville Center.

They're

from Air Force via

requesting a fighter

escort. MR.

:

Yeah, we definitely

need to

link up with NMCC, National Military Command on this.

We're gonna work on that here.

Do you have

a liaison on your end? MR. representatives.

:

We, we have some COF

[?]

Maybe we can get them

[ inaudible] . MR.

:

Okay; thanks; appreciate it.

MR.

:

We're just advised that CARF

is trying to get the link setup right now. [Background MR.

:

conversation.] Air Force One


[inaudible]

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[inaudible].

93, it's 20 minutes outside MR.

:

MR.

:

Cleveland. line.

All

Number one is

[inaudible]. inbound

flights--

Command Center, this is

I know I've got the chief on another

Do you need us, or do you want us on here

anymore? anything

If not, I don't know that we have else to report except for when this Delta

lands and I can hang on for that, if you like. MR.

:

We'll keep you on until the

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

He has a SAP

Delta 1ands.

keep, keep yourself

All

right.

[?], and you

can

right there?

MR.

:

Oh,

yeah.

MR.

:

Let's, for now, let's do

MR.

:

All

MR.

:

Okay.

that . right. They got that

information.

Here's the next two bits of

information.

1012.

All inbound

international

flights are being diverted to Canada.


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1012.

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MR.

:

Cleveland, what's the status

of Pittsburgh right now? MR.

:

Okay.

At

1013 - -

MR.

:

Stand by.

MR.

:

At

MR.

:

They're back in their tower

1013 - -

and they are pulling aircraft in to land them. There were some holding.

We'll get you a count

here, how many we have remaining to go in, if you want to hold on a sec. MR.

:

--from Andrews, there are

unidentified aircraft in the area. MR. the tower.

:

Okay.

Pittsburgh is back in

They've taken all the aircraft from us

They still have about four in their airspace on final, waiting to land. MR.

:

[inaudible] all under ATCs.

Got it. MR.

Correct.

MR.

Unidentified aircraft in the

area, requesting fighter escorts.

He's requesting

f ighter- -


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MR.

:

Okay, we're trying to garner

a list of airplane--of a i r c r a f t - - o f airports that are available to, to be used.

Shall we include

Pittsburgh in that useable airport category? MR.

:

You want us to ask them o r - - I

mean, as far as I'm concerned,

yes.

But you want

me to with them that they're going to keep a crew available? MR.

:

Affirmative.

If they're, if

they're taking airplane, they're available. MR. right now.

:

Yeah, they're

Yeah; okay.

taking

I would include them in.

MR.

:

[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

I don't know yet.

[Inaudible conversation MR.

:

'em

Okay.

in background]

Randy, this

i s - - e v - - p u t everything under FAA TAG Net, T - A - C Net . MR .

[ inaudible] .

MR.

FAA TAG NET.

MR.

[ inaudible] .

MR.

Yes.

Okay.


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This is New York TRACON with

MR.

an update on a possible aircraft. Sikorsky helicopter,

We tracked a

76010, from Poughkeepsie to

the Trade Center, it appeared to fly into the Trade Center at 12:27. MR. Sikorsky

That is preliminary information. :

They're saying

that a

helicopter flew into the Trade

Center.

MR.

:

TRACON, FAA Command Center.

MR.

:

Hey, Command Center.

MR.

:

Hey, Tommy, what, w h a t - - s a y

again; repeat your last. MR.

:

All right, Jimmy.

We did a - -


:

[inaudible] is on the ground.

MR.

:

- - a target that we saw, the

only target that we saw-[Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

--[inaudible] Trade

Center at

12:27 at 12:27, to fly into the Trade Center. MR. the, away

:

They're

taxi-ing him

We--

from

from the terminal to the isolated area.


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:

We had a departure off a

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

--at

MR. Poughkeepsie--

12 : 03 - -


:

They're taxing the Delta to

an isolated area away from the terminal. MR.

:

--[inaudible] southbound at

that time, was a Sikorsky helicopter, which is consistent with the speed that we followed it down. It was call sign 7601 Sierra.

They also had a

V F - - a n IFR Cherokee go to New Bedford.

I haven't

been able to track that flight yet. MR.

:

Okay, Tommy; thank you.

MR.

:

They're saying they replayed

the radar and it's consistent with [inaudible] of what went into the tower. MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Okay, Command Center, "heads

:

Yo?

up" on Pittsburgh. MR. MR.

They say they are pretty much


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They said they could

six more arrivals if there

are diverts that need to go in there, but other than that, they're

at capacity.

So I don't

know

how you want that as far as them being available, but they say they probably cannot hold more than about six more airplanes there on the ground. MR.

:

Yeah; the number is six.

MR.

:

They-- they've replayed the

Thanks.

radar and they have seen c o n s i s t e n t - - i t ' s a preliminary report-/'/
=

FAA

TAG Net

back to New

York

TRACON. MR.

MR.

New York TRACON's on. :

Can you repeat your last

report regarding the helicopter. MR.

:

[inaudible] I went

command post here and the reason MR.

MR.

:

they

into my

[inaudible]

Hey, you got a talk louder

November

7601


Sierra,

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76, departed-MR.

New York

[inaudible].

MR.

10 -4 .

MR .

[inaudible] tower is on.

MR.

FAF

MR .

Okay; all units stand by.

[?] [inaudible] on.

TRACON, go ahead with your report. MR.

[?].

:

:

I don't have the time code

Tommy had left already but he, he tells us

that a November 7601 Sierra, a Sikorsky,

departed

Poughkeepsie airport at 12:03 Zulu t i m e , tracked southbound

and the speed--

MR.

:

[ inaudible] .

MR .

Yes .

MR .

--was 60 knots which is

cons i stent- [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

[inaudible] Pittsburgh, they

have quite a few runways right?

that

Are they considering

[inaudible]

as well;

that option as well?

MR.

:

I do, I do not know t h a t - -

MR.

:

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:

- - b u t I will get back to you

I j u s t - - t h e y , they called us,

unsolicited, and gave us the information that they slated, you know, they can only take six more. I'm sure

in a, in a emergency, they could put

on the other runways

So 'em

or something.

MR.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

I don't know how many that

would add up to b u t - MR.

:

That's about

[inaudible]

what

went into the World Trade Center.

MS .

Now Zulu time is four hours

different from Eastern Standard Time.

MR. Eastern Standard

Four hours difference from [inaudible].

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net Command Center.

MR.

:

Hello.

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net; go ahead.

MR.

:

Okay.

[inaudible].

Just go give you an

update from the national operations traffic- -


manager.

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:

Hey, Cleveland?

MR.

:

Yes.

MR.

:

--departing--

MR.

:

[inaudible] Pittsburgh, when

you talk to 'em, let 'em know that we need them t o - - w e need the runways for parking and not to deny any diverts, if at all possible. MR.

:

--would like us to get the

:

So whatever you can do to

word out - MR.

accommodate whoever needs to get in there-MR.

:

-- [inaudible] the country, to

land short, will continue to their destinations. MR.

:

All right.

We'll it on.

MR.

:

The national operations

manager - David

MR .

MR.

:

--is requesting--

MR.

:

Yes.

the manager MR.

Let me this on to

[inaudible]. :

Okay.


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:

Okay.

I thought we had an

earlier report on diversion of incoming to Canada. So now we're asking about

all arrivals, domestic?

MR.

:

No.

Starting--

MR.

:

I'm sorry.

:

Yeah.

Go ahead,

Cleveland. MR.

Cleveland, can you

check with any of your airports

to see if a Medex

MEP-4 landed or diverted to some, one of your airports there. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

He came out of Milwaukee

going to National initially

f ind

but

[inaudible]

can't

it, so - MR.

:

Okay; hold on.

MR.

:

Okay; thank you.

MR.

:

We are concerned

about

aircraft that are originating in South America, Asia, and so forth.

Is it your,

is it your request

or our instruction to have these aircraft

land

short of the United States or the first point in the United States, or what, what guidance can you


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offer as a request

to the national operations

manager? MR.

:

Okay.

We'll

[inaudible] that

one, we'll get back on that question. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

On the aircraft, land, first

opportunity; get right back on it. MR.

:

Thank you.

[Inaudible conversation MR. been 8:03.

:

in background.]

1203 Zulu.

This would have

1203 Zulu, 8:03 our time.

MR.

:

TRACON's on.

MR .

TRACON, go ahead.

MR .

It was tracked southbound at

160 miles per hour. MR.

:

I don't know

if you can hear

me but I'm supposed to be on a telecon with air traffic division here in Eastern and I can't get in on the telecon. Duchamp get

So if they can call me, Rich

[ph] can call me.

[inaudible] but I can't

[inaudible]. [Beeping sounds

audible.]


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:

Did you hear that?

You still

MR.

:

I am .

MR.

:

All

MR .

:

John McCartney

MR.

:

Yeah, everybody please

with me ?

right. [ph]?

by until I finish this conversation.

stand

If you just

ed us, please stand by. Okay. up to confirm.

I'm going to have somebody

The crisis center is operating and

we're getting all the reports, trying all together, and keeping a running just got

run it

to piece it

log, and you

[inaudible] at--and I'll convey

that, that

we received that from you at about 10:25. you — what time did you get there, Rich?

Did Or just

now? MR .

Jus t now.

MR .

Okay .

MR .

John, John

McCartney

[inaudible]? MR .

Yeah .

MR .

Dave was looking


[inaudible]

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:

Okay.

All right.

[inaudible], thanks

Anybody

else right now?

MR.

:

Eastern

MR.

:

Yes.

MR .

:

Hey, this is Rich Duchamp.

MR .

:

Rich.

MR.

:

All

Cleveland.

Region.

Hey, John?

Who's this?

Yes, sir.

right.

Pitt, this is

Reference to Pittsburgh.

they can accommodate under

They said

those circumstances up

to 50 aircraft. MR.

:

[inaudible] I want VFRs held

on the ground-[Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

- - w e hold the night service.

MR .

:

I'm sorry; say

MR .

:

[inaudible] Medex 411.

MR .

:

Well, we're getting a flight

Over .

plan.

again.

We do not show him diverting in here.

Probably need

Chicago.

We're showing Milwaukee,

direct Appleton route and then to Buco may

[?] which

[inaudible] cut our corner, and then back here


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[inaudible] in Chicago already

[ inaudible] . MR.

:

FAA--

[ Simultaneous conversation.]

house

MR.

:

[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

And we'll look around in

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

And you're on the same bridge

[inaudible]. Thank you very much.

with me on the facilities now. anything individually?

You want to say

I think most of 'em are

still on. MR .

:

Hey, Eastern Region, FAA

:

Eastern Region's on.

Command Center. MR.

Go

ahead, Command Center. MR.

:

Okay.

I hear the Eastern

Region, John McCartney discussing, this is — this was the FAA headquarters air traffic bridge, and they seem to be overriding

this bridge.

We have

some issues that we need to continue to resolve. MS .

And we copy and we'll fix


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[inaudible]. MR.

:

Okay; thank you.

FAA TAG Net, Air Traffic Command, Herndon. [inaudible conversation in background.] MR.

:

Hey, Rick?

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net, Air Traffic

MR.

:

This is the TAG Net.

MR.

:

Okay.

Command, Herndon. Go

ahead. Just to advise,

November 4 with the attorney general

is airborne

and requesting to return to Washington National. Would like a, make sure that's okay with you all. MR.

:

Okay; stand by.

MS.

:

[inaudible] .

[Beeping sound audible.] MR.

:

Hey, Rick, are you still on?

MR.

:

Hey, Ed, this is John.

I

don't know if we're still linked with the national bridge.

Is anyone MR.

from headquarters still on? :

[inaudible], back to Air

Traffic Command.


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Air Traffic Command.

MR .

Go

ahead. MR.

:

Negative on authorization for

November 4 in any Washington or New York area ai rport. MR.

:

Okay; understood.

We'll get

that word back to the pilot. MR.

:

Let me try and clear this up,

get the 5 3 0 - - I mean, the Eastern Region air traffic facilities off this bridge, they say we have to disconnect and we'll reconvene at 12:00 o'clock, we'll give you another number

[inaudible] they

linked the two bridges and I still hear the other TAG Net.

But we're coming off. MR.

:

Eastern Region, you may want

to keep a representative on this bridge just for--to facilitate communications but, yeah, if your if your OA [ph] facilities are on here, you probably should look for another bridge. MR.

:

I don't know what happened.

We were talking freely and then it just ed up so--and I'm not sure who was actually on that


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bridge with you so w e ' l l

[inaudible]--

MR.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

[inaudible]

this is

Eastern

Region Command C e n t e r . [inaudible

background conversation.]

MR.

:

John.

MS.

:

[inaudible] can you

read

Eastern Region Command Center? MR.

:

Air Traffic Command, go

MS.

:

We are going

ahead.

bridge right now

to set up a

[inaudible] air traffic and we

will advise on this net what that number will be. Over . MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

Eastern Region, this is

Syracuse.

Do you read?

MR.

:

Go ahead, Syracuse.

MR.

:

Yeah; just be advised that

it's very tough to get phone lines into your area there from outside the New York City area.

It took

me about 20 minutes to get on; just to be advised

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WASHINGTON, D.C. 20003-2802 (202) 546-6566

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:

Copy, Syracuse.

MS .

:

[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

Hey, John, Leesburg

MR .

:

Don.

MR.

:

[inaudible] 163 is on the

MR.

:

[inaudible] miles per hour.

MR.

:

Hey, Command Center, on the

[?].

Hey, McCartney?

second page.

Medex, we have a track target that's

[inaudible]

that was our control. At this time we do not have confirmation that we worked him yet. to check with the sector.

Of course a lotta the

people are outdoors, so we'll MR.

:

We're trying

[inaudible] .

A lotta people at, at the

center outdoors? MR.

That's correct.

MS .

[inaudible] Command Center,

we're on. MR.

We should probably

announce

that - MR.

:

We're basically just down to


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minimum staffing to keep the areas open and we sent home nonessentials.

Essentials are in the parking

lot still . [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

--number on their pagers.

MS .

:

[inaudible] .

MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:


Richmond.

Command Center, this is Richmond.

Is

the region there? MR.

:

We found the Medex.

He

diverted to Columbus. [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

[inaudible]--

MR.

:

Okay.

[inaudible]

confirmation with Columbus. MS.

is on.

:

Eastern Region Command Center

:

Not with Columbus

Ove r. MR.

yelled that back when I ed on MR.

:

[inaudible]

[inaudible] .

Okay, cause Indy controls

Columbus, so I just want to make sure


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him.

MR.

:

[inaudible] unconfirmed

MR.

:

I'll doublecheck.

MR.

:

--[inaudible] security at

report —

Richmond.

I didn't know if you were aware of that.

MR.

:

[inaudible] have any

information about the plane but as far as [ inaudible] . [Two different conversations are occurring at once.] MR.

:

Do you have a call sign on

that aircraft outta Richmond? MR.

:

Confirmed with the dispatcher

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

We do not have a confirmed

and Indy.

Thanks.

call sign or anything.

Thank you very much.

This is what's start — I'm

understanding it's floating through the news media. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

All right.

MR.

:

Hey, whoever's on this bridge

[inaudible] .


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:

FAA Tactical Net to all

stations.

Please check your mikes.

carriers.

Please check your mikes.

We have open

MR.

:

TRACON, is

[inaudible] still

MR.

:

Hello, this is New York

on?

TRACON.

Is 530 or anyone from Eastern Region Air

Traffic Division on? MR.

:

Command Herndon.

This is the FAA Air Traffic

They've t a k e n - - t h e c o m m a n - - t h e

com center in Eastern Region is setting up another bridge for the Eastern Region local facilities. This is for the headquarters bridge. MR.

:

Okay; thanks very much.

[Inaudible conversation in background.] MR.

:

[inaudible] the second tower

:

Eastern Center, this is

collaps ed. MS. Atlantic City.

I need a question answered about

DOD coordination.


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airport.

MR.

:

Say

MS.

:

This

again. is Atlantic City

We've got Air Guard here and we've got

Coast Guard here.

Coast Guard may

need-- okay--forget the Air Guard part but the Coast Guard may need to get out on rescue missions.

Who

do they coordinate with before they get out? MR.

:

Command at Herndon.

This

is the Air Traffic

We were advised by the

headquarters FAA, that military, law enforcement in of search and rescue are, can go, just coordinate with the appropriate m i l - - t h e appropriate air traffic facility for whatever operation they need to conduct.

But they're not,

they're not held as per FAA TAG Net. MS.

:

That is not what we were told

before, so now if it's military or

[inaudible] so

they're okay to go, and if Coast Guard needs to go out on a rescue, they're okay also; MR. affirmative.

:

correct?

This is FAA TAG Net.

That's

We're confirming military and law

enforcement operations are released--


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:

Thank you.

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net, FAA Great Lakes

security, an update on Delta flight 1989. MR.

:

Go ahead with the update.

MR.

:

Delta 1989

is on the ground

in Cleveland, 69 souls on board, they've with the flaps up.

landed

The police are responding;

we'll update with more information. MR.

:

Okay.

Delta 1989 on the ground, police are

I've got that report.

Cleveland, flaps up,

responding.

MR.

:

Roger.

MR.

:

There's something wrong with

the aircraft that landed at Cleveland. MR.

:

[inaudible].

[beeping sound audible.] MR.

:

now at Herndon.

This is Air Traffic Services

I'd like to find out if NORAD is

up on the bridge. MR.

:

FAA TAG Net.

MR.

:

[inaudible] .

MR.

:

Okay.

Air

traffic cell is


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on.

Okay.

This is [inaudible] the air traffic

[ inaudible] . MR.

:

Can I help you?

MR.

:

Yes.

Air Traffic Services.

I'm trying to find out if NORAD is up on the bridge yet . MR. Control Center.

:

This is the Air Traffic

I have not heard them on there.

MR.

Okay; thanks.

We'll

[ inaudible] - FAA- -

MR. MR.

:

--get them linked in also.

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net, are you aware of

NORAD being on this bridge? MR.

:

Negative.

MR.

:

Okay.

I don't have NORAD

or NMCC. Air traffic military

cell, you may want to get the NMCC or NORAD up on the bridge. MR.

:

Right.

that, get 'em both on. MR.

:

We'll try to work

Thanks.

Thank you.


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:

Command Center, we've noticed

that down at Indy there are quite a few in the vicinity of Columbus and that.

We've confirmed

with Detroit and Cleveland, they both have capacity and can take aircraft if you have a need another

is?

center. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

Your, your name again, sir,

d-i-o-n-i-s?

Corporate

Just a good memory. Uh-huh.

from

Uh-huh.

security, AT&T.

What is your callback number.

Okay.

Uh-huh.

not be in the next few minutes MR.

Okay.

And it may

cause--okay.

:

Air Traffic Command Center,

MR.

:

Air Traffic Command, go

MR.

:

They had the--Boston Center

New England.

ahead.

is going to evacuate their personnel, aircraft

in their airspace,

they have no

there are some

unidentified primary targets in the area and they're going

to evacuate to an alternate assembly


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:

I'm sorry there, I didn't get

your last- -they're evacuating t i l l - MR. site.

:

They will be ATCO in about three minutes. MR.

ATCO.

To an alternate assembly

:

Understood at Boston Center,

:

Yeah.

Thank you. MR.

t h e - - t h i s is the main

No, this is, this is

[inaudible]

the FBI command

[inaudible]. MR.

:

Traffic Command. Command,

Okay.

FAA TAG Net to Air

FAA TAG Net to Air

Traffic

Herndon. Air Traffic Command,

MR .

Herndon.

Go ahead. MR. on inbound

:

aircraft.

Okay.

Reference your request

I have confirmation, all

inbound aircraft should

land--


:

Command Center, Cleveland

MR .

:

--not in the Washington,

Center.


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York area. MR.

:

tell him to land. to Andrews.

[inaudible] another line to

He's insisting on continuing on

We just want to make sure that, that

we have authority to do what, what he wishes. MR.

:

Call sign NAN

MR.

:

November 4.

4.

N - A - N 4?

November 4, we

were told it's the Secretary of State on board. I'm sorry.

The Attorney General on board.

MR.

:

TAG Net, go ahead.

MR.

:

Yeah.

This is JFK, if the

Center's on the line-MR.

:

they can continue MR.

[inaudible] information that

[inaudible]. :

Correct, cause we, we've got

information from somewhere else to, to have 'em land at the nearest airport. MR.

:

MR.

:

[inaudible].

You have the info on the

America Flight 11, two individuals with knives assaulted the flight crew and then forced their way into the cockpit?


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:

Negative on that.

MR.

:

Okay.

According to Port

police here, that, that already has been confirmed, but I'm--we're waiting for an American Airlines representative. MR.

:

Okay.

Thanks.

MR.

:


MR.

:

This is TAG Net.

:

Okay.

Command. Go ahead,

Air Traffic. MR.

We've been advised

that s have been notified to land as soon as feasible in other than New York, Washington or Chicago.

Also, do you require to know w h e - - w h a t

facilities have gone to ATCO? MR.

:

Stand by.

MR.

:

Proceed to Andrews.

may not be any air traffic control

There

services

available when they get there; but they may proceed. MR.

:

Okay.

They may proceed but

there may be no ATC services.

Thank you.


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:

Correct.

MR.

:

Flight 11.

armed individuals

Confirmed two

took over the aircraft.

MR.

:

FAA TAG net, Air Traffic

MR.

:

93 is the correct number.

Command.

She said 84 [inaudible]. MR.

:

Ninety-three.

FAA TAC Net, back to Air

Traffic Control Command. MR.

:

Okay.

additional for you, TAC Net.

I have something We received--


:

Command Center,

Cleveland.

MR.

:

- - a report that Indianapolis

MR.

:

We were told to look for

Center--

American 77 and we are showing him Kansas City.

[inaudible]

If somebody-- can we confirm that,

that he is [inaudible] located Kansas City Center, that he's there, so we can discontinue

that

check? MR.

No, we do not know the status


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of American 77.

I will get their Net call

[?] but we will doublecheck on it but we are still looking for 'em.

Do you know anything on United

641? No.

MR.

MR.

:

What - -

That's right or they--


:

You want

MR.

:

That report was--

MR .

:

Yeah, if you would, please

MR.

:

All right.

MR.

:

Correct.

United 641.

--air route center.

MR .

MR.

[inaudible]?

:

Okay.

Now I've got a

response on the ATCO. MR.

:

Go ahead, sir.

MR.

:

Stand by on that; it's under

:

Okay.

di scuss ion. MR.

We'd also like to know

as far as the New York area, is Philadelphia available as a landing site for aircraft? MR.

:

I'll have to check on that


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one . MR

:

Thank you.

MR

:

Do you want to take over

MR.

:

Okay, and just a "heads up"

here?

from Cleveland, American 77 was never flight planned through us and we have nothing in the, in the computer.

to LA

MR.

:

Okay; thanks.

MR.

:

We're checking on the United

MR.

:

[inaudible]

MR.

:

Yeah; they go through Indy;

MR.

:

W e l l , yeah.

77 was a Dulles

and - -

yeah . [inaudible] .

Let me see if I can pull up a — MR.

:

FAA TAG Net back to Air

:

[inaudible] B u t l e r - - y e a h ,

Traffic Command. MR. they took - [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

Go ahead, TAG Net.


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Can you confirm you're

r e q u e s t ing MR.

[ inaudible] .

MR.

Yes- -

MR.

:

We are requesting to know if

Philadelphia is a viable place for aircraft to land.

That is correct.

MR.

:

Okay; thank you, sir.

MS .

:

FAA TAC, Eastern Region

MR

:

Good morning, this is FAA

MS.

:

We are checking with Philly

Command Center.

TAC .

at this time to find out if they're available for our lands; over. MR. Herndon.

:

This is the Command Center in

We, we understand the air-the airport is

physically available and it can accommodate landing; however, in light of the situation, do we want that considered

as, as a landing

site?

That's

our question. MR.

:

Have any planes in the air?


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MR.

:

Yeah, there are some, there

are some aircraft that are looking to get to Philly.

That's correct. MR.

:

For the Eastern Region Com

Center, did you come up with the or code for the telecon? MR.

:

Cleveland Command Center.

MR.

:

Yes;

MR .

:

N4?

MR.

:

Yes .

MR.

:

You're working him?

MR.

:

Yes .

MR.

:

If he's — where he's going?

go ahead.

Oh, he's going up northbound. MR. on at this time. MR.

:

He's, he's--he is continuing

He was refused to land-:

Well, let me tell you what,

what I, what I know, what I [inaudible].

If he

ge.ts into DCA area and it becomes a target-MR.

:

All right.

MR.

:

That's correct.

MR .

All right.

Is that--how

is that that you

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:

Exactly like that to him? Hold on a second.

don't want to b e - - s a y anything

Let m e - - I

I shouldn't be here,

but - -

MR.

:

W e l l , that's why

I want a

confirmation--

MR.

I understand.

MR.

--before we tell him.

MR.

:

I understand, but that's

what, that's what's been ed to us, that an--anybody in the DCA airspace is, is a target. So hold on a second.

MR.

:

[inaudible] Herndon,

he

want s - [Simultaneous conversation.] MS.

:

FAA Tactical, this is Eastern

Region Command Center. MR.

:

Over.

Go ahead, Eastern Region

Command. MR.

I'm gonna go get somebody and

be right back MS .

Could you please confirm who


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[?] before we

[inaudible]; over. MR.

:

Okay; we're working that one.

MS.

:

Standing by.

MR.

:

Air Traffic Command, do you

S tand by.

have an aircraft on approach? MR.

:

Center, Herndon.

Comman--Air Traffic Command

Stand by.

MR.

:

FAA TAC Net, Air Traffic

MR.

:

Go ahead, sir.

MR.

:

Okay.

Command, Herndon.

We're, w e ' r e - - w e don't

have any information at this time as to number of aircraft seeking approaches to Philadelphia; however, the facility manager, acting facility manager — MR .

Cleveland?

MR .

Yes .

MR.

:

Okay.

The Air Force has

orders to shoot anybody down that comes into the Washington area.


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:

All right.

We will

exactly that along; thank you. MR.

:

And do not come into the

MR.

:

We'll it along.

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Okay.

Washington area.

So you still don't

have a count on aircraft approaching? MR.

:

That is correct.

We do not

have any information at this time as to aircraft requesting to go to Philadelphia.

The management

here is requesting to know if Philadelphia is viable for a landing site. MR.

:

Okay.

Hold on. I'm advised there

shouldn't be anybody airborne right now.

But if

there is an aircraft en route, we're saying it's clear. MR.

:

Okay; understood.

MR.

:

And Eastern, here's the

bottom line.

Thank you.

The only airplanes that are gonna

move on the East Coast in my area are gonna b e - [Start Part 4 . ]


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:

This is a continuation of the

tape, Command Center position 15.

Time now is

10:45 local. MR.

:

Here's the bottom line.

The

only airplanes that are gonna move on the East Coast in my area are gonna

be military, Coast

Guard, search and rescue, or NAN 4 is the exception to it.

If NAN 4 is going

'n roll," they can go in. airplane.

into Philadelphia, "rock That's the only

Other than that, we're finished.

MR.

:

Agreed.

There

shouldn't be

any other aircraft involved. MR.

:

FAA TAG Net back to ATC.

MR.

:

ATC

Command

Center.


:

On the general q u e s t i o n - -

MR.

:

Command Center, United 641 is

definitely on the ground

at Detroit Metro Airport.

MR.

:

Roger; we understood;

MR.

:

And American

thank

you .

hearing from Andy

77, what we're

is that they lost radar and radio


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with him, so we're gonna put out a interac

[?] type

message to all our facilities, any information in case he may have called one of them, come in low. MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

All right.

And if someone

can give me some information for NAN 4. interested in trying to get as close

He's

to the DC area

as he can without violating the no-fly zone.

He

wants to know if Richmond, Virginia, would be avallable. MR .

Philadelphia.

MR.

Philadelphia?

MR .

Af f irmat ive.

MR.

:

Okay.

:

We're, we're checking

So Richmond is not, or

may not be? MR. Richmond.

Right now Philly, yes.

on

Is checking on

Ri chmond. MR. Command,

:


MR.

:

Go ahead.

MR.

:

W e - - o u r facility working

Herndon.


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November 4, requesting

to know

if Richmond airport

would be okay as far as destination. MR. right now.

:

Okay.

That's being

worked

Please stand by.

MR.

:

Okay; thank

you.

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

ATC Command, Herndon, go

MR.

:

Regarding

MR .

:

Af f irmat ive.

MR.

:

Richmond is clear.

MR.

:

Roger; understand.

MR.

:

Did Walt

FAA TAG Net.

FAA TAG

Net to ATC Command.

ahead. November

4.

Thank

you .

he find anything MR.

[?] come back?

Did

[inaudible]? :

You know what time Andy may

have lost radar with American 77? MR .

:

The

only thing

I have right

now- MR.

No but we can try and check

for you.


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Richmond is approved.

Richmond is approved for N4. MR.

:

Okay.

Richmond is approved;

we got it . [Conversation in background.] :

1989 .

MR.

:

He didn't say.

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net to Great

MR

:

Great Lakes

MR

:

Any update on the Delta

:

We're still waiting for word

MR.

[ Pause . ]

Lakes

Security. Security.

aircraft ? MR.

back from agents on the scene. MR.

:

We know

if law enforcement's

:

Yes; they are.

on the ground? MR.

They were

responding as soon as the plane hit the ground. MR.

you

:

Please advise

get it . MR.

Roger

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MR.

:

[inaudible] hotline for at

least — I've been on for an hour. [Background conversation.] MR.

:

Cleveland, confirm that N4

does want to go to Richmond; right? That ' s- -that ' s — MR.

:

Yes, we ed along the word

and I've not heard anything

back, so I assume he's

continuing on to Richmond, positions-MR.

:

FAA TAG Net back to Great

Lakes Security. MR .

--like northwest

of

[ inaudible] . MR .

Did you advise on that flight

service radio-[Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

--frequency for the ATC?

MR.

:

Somebody

there's going to

coordinate with Washington Center, so they know he's coming? MR. MR .

:

We will.

Okay .


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:

Is ATC

reporting on the

calling in about being shot

MR.

:

down?

That's a f f i r m a t i v e .

Anything

further on that? We weren't the source of that

MR .

informat ion. Was that

MR.

MR.

:

All

TRACON?

right.

we talked to Indianapolis.

Command Center,

What they say about

American 77 is that at 1256 Zulu, at the York VOR 080,

at ten miles, that they lost the American 77,

last known report

[?].


:

[inaudible] came from

Indianapolis air route center. MR.

:

Okay;

MR.

:

All right.

MR.

:

Sure.

MR.

:

Do you have any other

aircraft that we're looking

thanks. Thanks.

for?

MR.

:

Not right now.

MR.

:

All

right.

[inaudible] an


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Would all air

traffic facilities please come up on bridge

9960,

9964 . [beeping sounds audible.] :

MR.

FAA TAG to Air

MR .

Traffic

Command. MR. aware

:

Cleveland,

Washington is

[inaudible] November 4. MR.

:

Okay; thank you.

MR.

:

FAA TAG to Air Traffic

Command. Air Traffic Command

MR .

MR.

:

Herndon

Do you have an update, sir,

on that female voice on 122.6? MR.

:

Stand by.

We'll attempt to

check with the facility that gave us that informat ion.

Ontario

MR .

Standing by.

MR .

Palm Beach

[inaudible]

from LAX?

MR .

Yeah

[inaudible].


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:

Beach, Ontario,

That just came in?

Long

and LAX evacuated.

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Definitely got one right

MR.

:

All right.

:

It's chaos out there

here . Good.

[inaudible ] . MR.

[inaudible] this is true that, you know, folks also on the ground MR.

:

[inaudible] .

[inaudible] .

[inaudible background MR.

these

conversation.]

:

[inaudible] call me on this

:

That and this, t h i s - - t r y to

one; use my radio. MR.

stop the traffic from going up and down Pennsylvania

[inaudible].


:

conversation.]

Yeah; we need to be concerned

about that. MR .

Is that a confirm?

MR .

[ inaudible] .


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[Background conversation.] MR.

:

Tactical.

MR.

:

When you say " t a c t i c a l , " is

MR.

:

No.

MR.

:

Is t h i s - -

that the regional?

MR.

:

[Background MR. him that you're MR. MR. MR.

:

[inaudible].

[inaudible]. conversation.] All right.

I'm gonna tell

[inaudible]. : :

:

[Background MS.

National

:

Good morning. [inaudible] outta Pittsburgh Yeah; that's at Somerset. conversation.] How do you

spell her name?

How do you spell her name? MR.

:

FAA Tactical Net to Air

Traffic Command. MR.

:

Air Traffic Command

MR.

:

Stand by.

Herndon.


:

Air

Traffic

Command.


TAG.

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MR.

:

Air Traffic Command Herndon;

:

Okay.

go ahead. MR.

I'm looking for status

on United 93, last reported over Johnstown PA. MR.

:

We believe that aircraft is

the crash that's being reported near the Pittsburgh area, I believe Somerset, Pennsylvania.

That,

that's the one we believe that is there. Okay.

MR .

So no one is tracking

that right now? MR .

That is correct.

MR.

I covered you on the location

of t he crash. MR.

:

We believe that was the, the

aircraft that was in the vicinity of Johnstown, Pennsylvania, earlier, and we're hearing possibly an area near Somerset, Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh, the aircraft possibly down, that we believe that might be it. MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Now we're on the national

network, the primary net.

I've got that.

We're now on.


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[ inaudible] .

MR.

:

My number

[Background MR.

:

[inaudible].

conversation.] I'm now apparently on this

nat ional- -

MR

MR.

Hey, Tactical Net, Boston AOC

:

Okay.

All parties on the

Tactical Net, please check your microphones; we have open mikes. MR. Command

Check your mikes if they're

open.

:


MR.

:

Go ahead,

MR.

:

Indianapolis Center

Herndon. sir. reporting

no further transmissions heard on 122.6. MR.

:

Okay; nothing

MR

:

That is correct.

MR

:

Right.

MR

:

FAA TAG Net, FAA Great

:

Go ahead, Great

further on that

one .

Security. MR


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:

Delta Flight 1989 still on

the ground at Cleveland.

The police have

approached the aircraft; however, there's been no breach of the aircraft at this time; no further report. MR.

Okay.

I've

got it; standing

MS .

TRACON

is unable to dial in

by.

on the new bridge. MR.

:

representative?

Oh.

Who

is the American

Is there confirmation on the

two people that entered with knives? number

The American

11 flight? MR.

[ inaudible] .

MR.

Okay.

MR.

Ai r Command - -

MR.

--knives

Two--

[inaudible]

through

and forced their way in the cockpit-MR.

:

Command Center, Cleveland.

MR.

:

Go ahead.

MR . through Indy.

You'll have to work this We

just handed off November 4•


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however, he requested a fighter escort before he left our frequencies.

If you want to have phone

work that issue for him and get back to Indy-MS .

:

[inaudible] you're in your

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

This is, this is t h e - -

tactical net.

[Background conversation.] MS.

:

And JFK, you have open mikes.

MR.

:

Right now, United 93, the one

that we talked about this morning-MR.

:

FAA TAG Net

MR.

:

JFK,

MR.

:

Okay.

FSM.

to FSM JFK. Go.

You're bleeding over

on your secondary conversations.

Can you squelch

that . MR.

:

There's not

MR.

:

Okay.

a mute on this

phone.

carrying

Then you're, you're

over the whole net, then, Sal

[ph] .

MR.

:

Okay; thank you.

MS.

:

TAG Net, this is New York


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:

Go ahead, New York TRACON.

MS.

:

Unable to dial through on the

bridge that you announced. MR.

bridge.

:

Okay.

I did not

announce

the

Who are you trying to ? MS.

:

The 964 bridge, and we're

unable to dial it. That's an air traffic net.

MR.


:

FAA TAG Net to Great Lakes

Security. [Background conversation.] MR. from.

:

[inaudible] where that came

So he says [inaudible]. MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

And Command Center, just so

you know, we have a report of a small aircraft from the local police department in the vicinity of [inaudible] so we are now evacuating all but basically a skeleton crew. MR.

:

Okay.

I thought you were


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:

Yeah.

No, we're, we're now

[inaudible] and the chief, one of

the few people in each facility. other people in, in the MR.

:

sticking with me.

We still had some

buildings.

Okay.

I appreciate you

Now you said the small aircraft

is a local police? MS.

:

W e l l , the local police

spotted him and called us to inform us that he appeared to be circling the area.

So we're just

taking an additional precaution of getting everyone else out, just in case he's not some VFR guy out there flying around. MR.

:

I'll make a note of that.

MS.

:

Hey, Carol?


:

Hey, Carol?

conversation.]


Command Center Herndon. MR

:

This is the TAG Net; go

ahead.


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Hey, Cleveland?

MR .

Sir, we're g e t t i n g - -

MR.

Yeah .

MR.

I'll put you on hold.

MR.

--reports from November 4

again- [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

We're gonna pick you up on

the national telecon that's going on. the centers up there that one. nothing,

They got all

and they, they want you on

So just, just hang on the line, you do I'm gonna put you on hold, they're

gonna

pull you back out. MR.

:

Okay; thank

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Need

Okay;

TRACON.

:

Hello.

conversation.] This is New York

[inaudible]. New York

me.

stand by.

to hold at fifteen.


you.

TRACON's on.

Can anybody hear

Hey, Campfield [?], are you here? MR.

:

FAA TAG Net, do we have


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awt Secret Service on this net? MR.

:

--and minimal staffing in

here, the chief, an office manager, myself, and a few of the military personnel. MR.

:

Okay.

:

Yes.

You want us to show

you ATCO? MR.

I would show ATCO until

we can bring people back in.

We probably

can

handle a small number of aircraft, some areas do have some minimal staffing

and may still

[inaudible] ground. MR.

:

Okay, thank you,

Cleveland.

MR.

:

--we can't communicate with

our regional office-MR.

:

MR . MR.

Command Center. Go ahead.

:

- - a l l the phones lines are

dead from here to there. [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

Yeah.

November

4 is

requesting a fighter escort, that he's personally talked to

[inaudible] to land at DCA instead of


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[inaudible]. — and help out, but we have

MR.

no way of getting 'em there and we need t o - Yes,

MR.

it is; hold on just a

moment. MR.

:

--security clearance kind of

a mechanism, so that the Air Force and everybody knows that these guys are okay and they're trying to get to Manhattan to help. MS.

:

And Eastern Region

[inaudible] is working

that issue.

MR.

:

Okay.

MS.

:

[inaudible]

MR.

:

Okay.

Thank you.

Thanks very much.

Who

is this? Security.

[inaudible] TRACON, we

can't get a line into the regional MR.

:

facility.

Go ahead.

Yeah--

MR .

MR.

office.

:

Could somebody

just call the

We can receive calls but we just can't

get calls into the regional office. MR.

:

I couldn't hear you; say


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again. MR.

:

So I need to know about t'h±>ar>

so we can clear :thes'e -airplanes or not clear them;' okay? MS. more time.

:

And copy that.

Try 9964 one

We have individuals that have dropped

off and you may

[inaudible] .

Over.

And whoever that was talking

MR.

before, I lost you.

If you could--

MR.

[inaudible] Clark

[?].

MR.

Okay; sorry about that.

Seattle Center.

MR.

Yes, sir.

MR.

I've got three--


:

--Oceanic [ph] flights

inbound to Seattle.

We want these guys to divert to

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[inaudible]?

MR.

:

MR.

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Yes, yes; get 'em to divert•;••' right.

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MR.

FAA TAG Net.

:

All right.

Cleveland Center,

reference November 4.

Yes .

MR.

MR.

:

Call m e - -


:

Did you--

MR.

:

He's on Indy now.

MR.

:

Oh, he is?

MR.

:

Yes.


:

Yeah, Indy's on.

MR.

:

Reference November 4

Yes .

MR .

MR.

:

continue to Richmond.

At this point in time he's to We have his request.

We are

checking it with the proper authorities. MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

All

MR.

:


right.

FAA TAG Net out.

Security will offer five minute updates on Delta 1989.

Nothing new to report at this time.


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:

Hey, Command Center, this

MR .

:

MR.

:

MR.

:

[ inaudible] - -

MS .

:

Once again, all

i s -[inaudible].

Go ahead, Kansas City.

Region air traffic should be dialing MR.

:

[inaudible]

Eastern in to 9964.

personnel,

except

the, the minimum to stay open on a midnight configuration. MR .

:

Stand by.

I'll check on that

MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

All right.

for you.

Vancouver

center,

we've pulled you into the hotline for information purposes only. [Simultaneous conversation.] MR.

:

If you have anything

significant to to us here at the Command Center, please use this line.

It's going to remain

open MR.

:

We're going to keep this line


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open . MR.

:

We h a v e a r e q u e s t - -

MR.

:

That's correct, sir.

MR.

:

Okay; that's great.

At this

moment, this is an update, no aircraft [inaudible] U.S. whatsoever.

We're probably gonna use

Vancouver Center as a parking lot as the airlines [inaudible] repositioning [?] . MR.

:

Thank you.

MR.

:

Command Center, this is Salt

Lake . Go ahead.

MR .

MR.

:

aircraft requesting

We've got several

[inaudible]

[inaudible].

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net.

MR.

:

Command Center

MR.

:

Update Flight 93, United 93.

MR.

:

Yes, sir.

[inaudible] .

[Simultaneous conversation.] MR. Somerset, PA. MR.

:

Believe crashed vicinity

For Air Traffic Command :

All

right.


Herndon.

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:

We're trying to get a OH-58

released from Port Drum to fly into Rochester's airspace and they told me, you know-[Simultaneous conversation.] MR. on the ground

:

Update, Delta Airlines

1989

in Cleveland.

MR.

:

What's the purpose

of the

MR.

:

Well, we're trying

to recover

miss ion?

all of our 58s because we believe they're gonna be relocated to New York MR.

:

Okay;

MR.

:

Okay.

[Background MR. open.

City. stand by.

conversation.]

:

They're

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Yes.

trying to keep this

[inaudible].

services available.

Yes, sir? There will be no ATC

There w i l l — w e will not deny

the military to fly but there won't be any ATC services available at this time. MR .

:

Okay.

So he's basically on


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:

That is corEeot-

"MR.-

:

All right.

MR.

:

Air Traffic Command Herndon

to the FBI.

Thank you.

Could you Fort Drum for me,

cause I don't know if they'll accept it from me. MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Okay.

to do that right now. line.

1 will, I will attempt

You're going to stay on the

What was your name? MR.

Stand by.

You said Jeff what?

-Jeff Brooks . [inaudible] FAA, Great Lakes

MR. Security. MR.

;

Your DSN

number?

I

MR.

:

Hold on.

MR.

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Okay v

MR.

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I don't have a DSN.

MR .

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The commercial number

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Hold

on .

Command

MR .

Thank you.

MR .

FAA TAG Net,

FAA Air Traffic

Herndon. MR.

:

Go ahead, Herndon.

MR.

:

We have an inquiry from an

individual reported to be an FBI agent, Special, Special Agentf" American 77.

|[?] out of LA inquiring about

Obviously we do not want to provide

any information till the, you know, identity of the individual can be confirmed. advise the FBI?

Or would you like to

We have a number where this agent

reportedly called from. MR.

:

[inaudible] SIOC.

MR.

:

Boston, this is Tony, Command

Center East.

I've got a question for you.

I have

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Okay.

MR.

:

Do you have the number for

MR.

:

Are you in. with FBI--

MR.

:

Fort Drum.

MR.

:

We're advising the pilot

Fort Drum?

Hold on a second.

[inaudible] - [Two different conversation bngoing.] MR.

:

--from an agent 6,r an

individual identifying himself as Agent I

L

you authenticate--

Can ,,

MR.

,.

No ATC services will be

provided. MR.

Okay.

MR .

So we're not denying the

military- MR.

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Agent

[inaudible] .

MR.

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Correct.

:

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MR.

Right.

MR .

But do you want--Fort Drum?

MR .

What is--his

MR.

This is the Air Traffic

request is what?

Herndon MR .

Hello?

MR.

:

For Fort

MR.

:

Okay.

Drum.

[inaudible].


:

[inaudible] one of t h e - -

MR.

:

I have a commercial

number.

Do you have any other way to get ahold of them through FAA

[inaudible]?

MR.

:

I have no idea from here at

the Watch Desk. MR .

Okay .

MR .

Sorry.

MR .

Hold on.

MR.

Okay .

MR.

I guess Area A is the, the

line to Fort MR.

Drum Yeah; but you know what?


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Nobody there?

MR.

:

Nobody the-W,- '::

MR .

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Yeah.

MR.

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Except for me--

MR.

:

Okay.

:

--picking up the phone.

MR.

:

All right.

MR.

:

[inaudible].

MR.

:

Yes?

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specific - MR.

I'll

talk to you later.

MR.

. :-'-. Okay,

You're going to handle

out there? MR.

:

Yeah.

Do you have that

return number he gave you, so that we can use it? MR.

:

I do.

Are you ready to

MR.

:

Go.

MR.

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let you know what's with it.

the AG's

MR.

:

FBI SIOC.

MR.

:

We've confirmed November 4 is

flight and it's okay to land. MR.

November

:

Okay.

4 is okay for DCA?

Command Herndon

You confirm that the This is Air Traffic

asking.

MR.

:

That's correct.

MR.

:

Okay.

MR.

:

Air Traffic Command Herndon,

Thank

stand by on that last request.

you very much.

I've got to get

back to you on that one.

MR.

:

Someone just got on this net,

said that was approved. MR.

:

That was FBI SIOC.

MR .

Okay .

MR .

All right.

MR .

We'll wait for you, TAG Net.

MR .

Stand by on that one.

MR .

FAA Traffic Command Herndon.

MR .


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Okay, FAA TAG Net back to

MR .

ATC Command Center Herndon;

ATC .

go ahead.

MR .

That's affirmative on

Nove--November 4. MR.

:

Roger o n - - r o g e r , understand

DCA, will advise the facilities. MR.

Thank you.

:


MR.

:

Go ahead.

MR.

:

Cleveland

Security.

commissioner is reporting

airport

that initial with

and confirmation with the air traffic control

tower

in ClevelandMR ,

Hello.

Jeff?

MR

-reported that Delta 1989

MR

Mr.

MR

— reported it was under

MR

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Brooks?

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MR.

hotline.

MR.

:

-- [inaudible] --

MR.

:

Yeah; you're on the

Who's this calling? MR.

:

Sorry.

MR.

:

We have a report of hijacked

1989 on the ground.

My mistake.

Nothing further.

MR.

:

Roger.

MR.

:

FAA TAG Net,

FAA Air Traffic

Command Center Herndon. MR

FAA Air Traffic Command

MR.

Go ahead.

He rndon.

MR.

:

The facility has advised'


:

Okay, the facility has

MR.

:

- - i s requesting a military

advi sed-

escort.

We are advising the air traffic services

cell, the military cell here; over. MR.

:

I copy.

MR.

:

Okay.

Do you have anyone


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160 also that you may be able to follow up on that? We're going to advise DCA that this is a approved flight. MR.

:

Okay.

I don't have a

follow-up on the fighter request. MR. Kansas City.

:

Roger that.


We did a search for American 644.

We

[inaudible]. [Background conversation.] MR.

:

Hello?

MR.

:

Say again, please.

MR.

:

Yes.

I just wanted to see

i f - - R o c h e s t e r , New York, trying to get a flight out from Drum. MR.

:

couldn't hear you. MR.

Say again.

I couldn't, I

Someone else was talking. :

All right.

I'm with the

National Guard out of Rochester, New York. trying

to get a flight released

We're

from Fort Drum to

return to Rochester. [Background conversation.] MR.

:

Hey, could you hang up and



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MR.

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Correct.

MR.

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